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Pasha
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 Posted - 09 Jul 2012 : 1:15:11 PM
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I'm going to go higher - I reckon this is at least 10k  |
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pinkvboots
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Posted - 09 Jul 2012 : 1:17:08 PM
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| I dont really see the point of paying for an advert if your not going to use it to its full potential, i see so many adverts with very little text, some dont list a horses age or size which i think is a crucial thing most buyers want to know, some of the pictures people use are not doing the horse any favours, and often think no photo is better than a really bad one, i think the way an advert is writen and choice of pictures can determine the horses sale or not., at the end of the day an advert is for attracting the right interest which will result in selling your horse to the right person. |
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sab2
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Fee
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Posted - 09 Jul 2012 : 1:35:49 PM
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Good on her if she has priced her treasured horse 'high'. I think the price of horses is disgustingly low, they are so undervalued and people still want them cheaper! Whilst probably complaining about the amount going to slaughter. Little welshies going to meat men for a fiver! Disgusting! Raise the price people and ensure they have some value!
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Kazzy
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Posted - 09 Jul 2012 : 2:09:43 PM
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I dont think its the price people are having a go at its the way the advert is saying *dont bother phoning me coz I aint interested* there is no picture of the horse either.
Still think he/she is rude!!!
Why place an advert on here if he/she thinks that people cant afford her horse.
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Eeyore
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Posted - 09 Jul 2012 : 2:20:47 PM
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The advert says
Very special lady only for sale to outstanding home will not sell if right home not found
This to me is the most important thing. She loves her horse and wants to find a good home. Surely this is a good thing?
I'm still missing what is so wrong or rude about this advert. Maybe I have a rhino hide but I don't take an advert that I can read or ignore as rude.
Still not getting it lol |
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Fee
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Posted - 09 Jul 2012 : 2:35:32 PM
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That's your interpretation Kazzy, probably not what or why she wrote what she wrote. And people actually are having a go and a guess at the price which they dont even know! I think you all think she's rude because you are interpreting that she's suggesting you can't afford her horse. I dont read it like that. I think she probably doesn't want those I mentioned above calling i.e 'Can I have your horse cheaper than cheap?'
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glo
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England
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Posted - 09 Jul 2012 : 2:53:46 PM
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| I think its rude and after I had read the advert I felt, how dare she!!! I was at first interested in the mare because of the height of her and the fact that she had done something. I just want a happy hacker, fun all rounder, some may say that would be a waste but that's is what I want. I could offer the very best of homes, but I will not even contemplate rudeness of any kind and if she thinks I cant afford her horse well she is very wrong !!!! She has lost a sell and I am pi**ed off. On the good side I have saved my self the cost of another horse and the right one I am sure will come soon. |
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Offira
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England
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Posted - 09 Jul 2012 : 3:37:45 PM
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Just my opinion, but I think the correct price for a good straight forward horse, sound horse with no vices, that has been given a good basic training and been out to a few shows should start at £5k. Just for the time and expertise put into the horse.
Sadly the only horses to make that sort of money are the coloured furry footed jobs that are sold as novice rides even though they have had patchy if any proper training. Their obliging natures and absence of nervous tension gives the impression they are safe, but they are not 'made' trained horses and in a crisis that lack of training shows. I feel sorry for them. Making horses is becoming a lost art. |
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Pop
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England
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Posted - 09 Jul 2012 : 4:21:37 PM
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Whhooooooosh .......
We went from outrage at rude, threw in a bit of humour and now we are on to horse slaughter.
Whilst I could ramble on and explain my thinking, I won't bother, except to say that putting a higher price on a horse is neither a way of securing it a good home, nor a method to keep bad owners away; and it counter productive to the objective in the current climate especially with the balance of available horse V potential owners. Its not an effective method to prevent the current level of horse slaughter, quite the opposite.
P.S. I'm so wanting to know what the price is now  , Was well cheeky with the 2K eh?
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Kazzy
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England
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Posted - 09 Jul 2012 : 4:23:11 PM
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Fee why didnt she put a price on the advert then and if she wanted say *no timewasters* I still think its rather rude to asume that people on AL dont have the money or cant offer this mare a good home,
plenty of people can do both and she has narrowed her margin down by putting what she has put.
Its like placing the advert and saying *oh look at me I can ofer this mare but not to people who cant afford her or can look after her* Surely most people who sell their horses want only the best possible homes for their horses, I would, but then again I have never sold a horse and never will
You may not think that what she put wasnt rude but plenty of people do.
Janet
ps no one is saying they want the horse cheaply either they are saying what she put at the end is rude. |
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Fee
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Posted - 09 Jul 2012 : 5:32:45 PM
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I just think, as ever, that people should think a bit more and consider all the possibilities of why someone says something. If they could perhaps clarify the facts and not always assume its for bad/wrong reasons something is said. It's just sad to see the queue of mud slinging, I don't like to see it and I will always intervene with possibilities which haven't been considered and reason. I'll leave it at that.
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amy_southworth
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 09 Jul 2012 : 6:24:31 PM
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Overpriced horse = no buyers = horse stays exactly where it is....
You can place any price on any horse, but the best of luck finding someone else prepared to pay that price, especially when an excellent home is priority!
Anyone interested can find a picture on the internet first by searching name, on 'in the focus' site. |
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Pauline
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Quarabian
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Posted - 09 Jul 2012 : 9:13:13 PM
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| I sold one of mine that I valued at £2500. She is a safe cob, started with natural horsemanship but properly schooled and capable of a dressage test. She was safe in traffic, I could walk her up steps through a house sized door, slide off her backside, bounce an exercise ball beside her and she would come to call. No vices or illness, yet nobody was interested at £1500. So I eventually sold her to a lovely lady for a third of that. No regrets because she has a permanent home where they are enjoying long distance riding together and she will be starting to drive later this year. I couldn't have hoped for a better home. Pity I am out of pocket but it isn't all about money. |
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Judith S
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Posted - 09 Jul 2012 : 9:28:21 PM
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The market determines the price, a seller can ask whatever they like - but they will only get what someone is willing to pay.
There is an oversupply of horses right across the market and while that is the case general prices will be low.
At Llanybydder last sale there were good riding horses going for meat because there is a demand for horses for meat at the moment, I believe around 150 were sold to the meat man at that one sale. |
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Fee
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Sahir
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Posted - 10 Jul 2012 : 08:19:08 AM
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So Glo - if that's the case why havn't you contacted me after I posted on this thread - I also phoned & spoke to your husband asking you to contact me. I know of 2 different people selling horses that would suit you (one for free permanent loan) |
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beau
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Posted - 10 Jul 2012 : 08:45:13 AM
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Kazzy
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Posted - 10 Jul 2012 : 09:11:30 AM
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A horse is only worth what someone else will pay for it!
You couldnt buy my horse for love nor money but in reality he isnt worth much but too me he's priceless.
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Diamond90
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Posted - 10 Jul 2012 : 09:36:54 AM
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I have never called up for a horse where the price is poa, I think you automatically assume that you 'cant afford/wont be able to afford' rather than 'this horse is going to be in my budget'.
Tthe cup is always half empty mindset.
Everyone has the right to have poa, thats their choice. However, I do believe that you limit the responses you will receive, or quite the opposite have people asking the price then not being able to afford it, rather than knowing in the first instance not to call. The wording of the add put people's back up instantly and I can completely understand why....
Maybe its a lesson learnt for future ads that it can generate this response, and being mindful that what one believes is expensive is all relative to how much someone can afford.
I bought my horse for a nominal fee, however that doesnt mean im not going to look after him any differently to someone paying thousands, or that I couldnt afford a more expensive horse,but that he was just what I wanted  |
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Pauline
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Posted - 10 Jul 2012 : 09:43:17 AM
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I believe that the mare has been sold??? The seller wanted £6,500 for her but would drop for the right home.
My friends did have contact with the seller and would have gone to see the mare.
I too can not see why the seller could not have at least put POA instead of assuming people could not afford the horse.
Unfortunately there are people out there who feel that they are in charge all the time when selling a horse. It is a buyers market with so many horses for sale. |
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Fee
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Posted - 10 Jul 2012 : 10:29:45 AM
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I'm sorry but where did she assume people couldn't afford her horse? That's YOUR interpretation of her words. What if she wrote that because she doesn't want people contacting her to try to get her cheap, which lets face it is mainly what would happen in this 'buyers' market of undervalued horses.
If you want to take her statement personally to your financial position or a personal attack at you then I hope you can see the problem lies with you and not the advertiser.
Now that's definitely me finished on this this time! 
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Diamond90
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Posted - 10 Jul 2012 : 11:00:45 AM
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Everyone will have their own perception on how the ad is worded - one may think it is for one reason, and one may think it is for another.
The fact is unless she states exactly why, no one will know exactly how she meant it, but the way it is perceived to oneself will either offend or not - thats down to the person themselves to decide, and that happens everyday in life.
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Pauline
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Posted - 10 Jul 2012 : 11:08:34 AM
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Fee
Who are you attacking because it does sound as if it me.
This is totally uncalled for.
As for assuming people could not afford the horse , it was her words "If you can afford her don't phone"
I have a picture of the mare ,does not look anything special.
If the mare had not ??? been sold my friends would have been happy to go and look at the said mare. |
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How rude!!!
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