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Vicki
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 Posted - 04 Nov 2005 : 11:22:39 AM
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Hi,
I bought my boy six years ago when he was 17yrs (now 23yrs - obviously!). Ever since then I have tried to find out a bit more about his past and particularly about his brand. I haven't got a clue who branded him and why. I'm his fifth owner and I guess because of this his history has faded over the years.
Apparently he qualified for Wembly with his dressage and SJ. He's also done a bit of XC but not a lot. This information came from his 3rd owner who amazingly still lived at the same address and so I was able to get hold of her. Unfortunately, and I don't know why, I didn't think to ask her if she knew anything about the brand...yeah I know, how thick am I??!! I tried to get hold of her again, but she had moved by that time.
His last owner didn't know anything.
His details are:
Stable name - "GUNNER"
Registered name - GRENADIER GUARDSMAN - foaled 20 April '82
Sired by - GRENADIER (GENERAL GRANT/BLUE RHAPSODY)
Dam - GAMILA (WAZEL GERWAZY/TAHITI)
Breeder - Mrs JE Beck
He's lived in Hertfordshire, Oxforshire, Buckinghamshire, Devon and now Yorkshire.
He's chestnut/white blaze/four socks
THE BRAND IS THE LETTER "R" WRITTEN INSIDE A SHIELD.
Several people including an FEI vet say they have only seen this kind of brand abroard. But his papers don't say he's ever lived abroad. Having said that, I guess he may have been with an owner who didn't offically change the ownership on his papers, the owner before me didn't bother. However, the vet also said there's a small possibility he was aloud to roam his lordship's land - whatever that means? and so may have been branded.
Help! - Vicki.
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pat day
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Posted - 04 Nov 2005 : 12:41:26 PM
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Yours is the last foal registered to Gamila
The previous ones are
1979 El Farig by Farif ch c bred by; R.R.Lawrence
1980 Farila by Farif bay f bred Mrs J Franklin
1981 Barren to Ahkaan
1982 Grenadier Guardsman
Wonder if these are branded too???
Also have you put in a search for brands??
I vaguely remember someone doing this sometime ago.
Not much help, sorry. |
       
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Vicki
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 Nov 2005 : 12:51:12 PM
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Hiya,
The AHS have never heard of an Arab being branded apparently. His brand has never been mentioned in his description on his registration certificate either.
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AkramGold
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Posted - 04 Nov 2005 : 2:00:18 PM
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| There was a chestnut arab stallion in Chobham that used to be kept behind my fields with an R brand on his bum and he would be similar age around 20 ish I think. Help Tamilla - I think she knows who ownes him or where he went. |
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AkramGold
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Posted - 04 Nov 2005 : 2:02:42 PM
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| I have put an FAO on for Tamilla. Where is the branding on ur boy |
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Vicki
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Posted - 04 Nov 2005 : 3:56:04 PM
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It's on his left side hind quarters.
His previous owner went to school in Guildford - not a millian miles away from there. She was 14 at the time. |
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AkramGold
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Posted - 04 Nov 2005 : 7:57:51 PM
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| Thats exactly the same place as this one. Have you got any photos of ur boy. Still trying to get info on the stallion and where is now |
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Vicki
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Posted - 04 Nov 2005 : 10:50:10 PM
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Hey AkramGold,
Got a good picture of my boy, also of his brand. Trouble is I don't know how to post a photo!
When hubby wakes up (dozing on sofa!) he might be able to work out how to do it, but no guarentee.
Vicki
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Vicki
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Posted - 05 Nov 2005 : 12:30:58 PM
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Hiya,
Yay!...did it! I've put some photos on the Picture Gallery including one of his brand as I said. Under my name - obviously!!
Vicki
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Roseanne
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Posted - 05 Nov 2005 : 1:16:51 PM
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| Any idea of who owned him in Oxfordshire Vicki? I could put out an appeal for information in the Oxfordshire column I write for Central Horse News. Would be useful to talk to you to do that and I could use a photo if you could email me one. The next edition is out in December. |
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Vicki
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Posted - 05 Nov 2005 : 5:25:21 PM
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Hi Roseanne,
He belonged to a Mr Robert Chaplin in Thame, Oxfordshire. Looking at his Registration Certificate it shows he bought him from the breeder as a yearling.
I'll email you with a photo.
Vicki
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Vicki
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Posted - 05 Nov 2005 : 5:30:58 PM
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Roseanne,
Can you send me your e-mail address so that I can e-mail you back with attached photos? solentsunlight@hotmail.com
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Roseanne
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Posted - 05 Nov 2005 : 7:18:38 PM
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Hi Vicki,
It's roseanne_edwards@journalist.com (the space is an underscore)- but I'll send you one so you can just reply.
I'll see what I can find out about Robert Chaplin. It's not a name I recognise. What's Gunner's breed mix? |
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Vicki
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Posted - 05 Nov 2005 : 8:51:59 PM
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AkramGold,
Any news yet?
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Vicki
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Posted - 05 Nov 2005 : 8:53:58 PM
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Roseanne,
I have emailed you.
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Libby Frost
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Posted - 06 Nov 2005 : 12:42:13 PM
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| Dont use the link on here it does,nt work. |
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AkramGold
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Posted - 07 Nov 2005 : 09:29:13 AM
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Hellooo
Sorry for the delay I only have access at work at the mo computer died!!! Still haven't heard from Tamilla will send her a text. Saw the pics of ur boy and the brand is defo in the same place. |
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Vicki
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Posted - 07 Nov 2005 : 2:05:58 PM
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| Thanks for keeping me posted. It's all really interesting! Vicki. |
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