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Ziadomira
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Posted - 21 Apr 2009 :  6:19:12 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Ziadomira to your friends list Send Ziadomira a Private Message
There seems to be a trend towards two day C shows.

Does this make it easier for exhibitors as they don't have to rush round all the classes in one day or is it harder because you have to stay away from home for two possible three days.

What do you prefer as exhibitors and why?

Zia
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jacki
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Posted - 22 Apr 2009 :  08:40:01 AM  Show Profile  Send jacki an AOL message  Click to see jacki's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add jacki to your friends list Send jacki a Private Message
when showing with horses i love staying overnight and having time to get to the right places on diff days but as a spectator i prefere one day so i can veiw it all on one day and only drive 1 round trip

sittingbourne kent
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Debbie
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Posted - 22 Apr 2009 :  11:29:28 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Debbie to your friends list Send Debbie a Private Message
As a DC or steward I prefer only 1 day

Debbie
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BeckyBoodle
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Posted - 22 Apr 2009 :  12:55:49 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeckyBoodle to your friends list Send BeckyBoodle a Private Message
I haven't shown but have exhibited at one day and longer events. I would say that staffing for exhibitors can be challenging if the event is longer, but I know when I was at the Gransden show last year, I felt it such a shame that such a show had been put on for one day only. It was teeming with stands, livestock and horses.
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loulou
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Posted - 22 Apr 2009 :  2:37:24 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add loulou to your friends list Send loulou a Private Message
I have to say on a personal note with two horses to show - one being in-hand and one being ridden I find it extremely hard on the purse strings as I have to pay for two to be stabled for the two nights and that can work out to over £100 alone without the class fees.

It is a lovely idea to have the ridden one day and in-hand another but not really practical over the year as I now have to sit down and think which horse I would rather take out where I would definately take them both to a one day show and stay over night. Also having to pay for someone at home to look after the other one is also more money for the two days - so personally I prefer the one day shows

Traceyx


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Roseanne
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Posted - 22 Apr 2009 :  7:22:21 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Roseanne to your friends list Send Roseanne a Private Message
I have a different request. I'd like the main ridden classes (HOYS/open etc) to be held rather later in the day to allow those of us who don't want to have our horses stabled there time to travel, prepare and warm up before the class.

It seems crazy to have a class starting at 8.30am - 9am when we have so much to do before a ridden class. It doesn't give anyone any option if they don't stable overnight unless they live in walking distance! Is there a reason ridden classes are so early?

Roseanne
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zebo
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Posted - 22 Apr 2009 :  8:03:03 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add zebo to your friends list Send zebo a Private Message
I agree with Roseanne, Not all horses like being stabled away from home, not to mention the owners who can't afford to stable them overnight.
Also if you have a two day show and have ridden on one day and inhand on the other, people will have to choose which to do, or stable horses overnight when they don't really need to?

Stephanie
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Silvern_Scepris
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Posted - 22 Apr 2009 :  9:24:25 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Silvern_Scepris to your friends list Send Silvern_Scepris a Private Message
Roseanne, I think it is because the in-hand classes are seen as the 'crowd pullers' not in my opinion though.


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Roseanne
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Posted - 22 Apr 2009 :  9:37:15 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Roseanne to your friends list Send Roseanne a Private Message
I wanted to do the AHS Nationals Open HOYS class but it starts at 9am and I live three hours away. I don't want to stable my horse there, even if there was space, so it's very difficult, not to mention expensive. Fortunately I do have a friend who lives nearby so I may be able to park there overnight. When the classes were on at lunchtime it was very workable and we could spend a little time after our class watching the final championships. I couldn't leave my horse all day after a competition so I could watch anything else, so I will be gone within a couple of hours. Those in the championship will have no alternative but to have their horse waiting around for hours.

I'd have thought the ridden classes should have stayed at lunchtime so spectators had time to get there, have a coffee and settle down. I doubt there will be many spectators!

Roseanne
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azeer
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Posted - 22 Apr 2009 :  11:05:13 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add azeer to your friends list Send azeer a Private Message
Whilst I have some sympathy about timings - having got up at 3am to leave at 4am for an early 8am class - there is always one class that has to start early - often it is the Novices that start early and it is debatable if that is fair when they are the newbies and perhaps need time to adjust. Even having ridden on a single day - someone has to start - maybe the classes should be mixed up a bit by show organisors so they dont run exaclty the same schedule. I know where they try to run ridden later e.g. Wessex they lose entries becuase HOYs qualifiers were on at the same time as Novice nad often people ride in both - hence their entries were down last year - very hard for everyone to be pleased all of the time - but sympathies can be felt for all.....
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Sadika
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Posted - 23 Apr 2009 :  07:10:48 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sadika to your friends list Send Sadika a Private Message
I am not an exhibitor but here's a point of view from a show organiser. Sadly it really is IMPOSSIBLE to please everyone! Every year when doing the Classic (one day show) schedule I have tried to make it exhibitor friendly but SOMEONE has to be in the first classes of the day and if these started much later than between 8 or 9 o'clock then the END of the show will have people having to make late journeys home as someone will be in the last classes and then there are the CHampionships. Two day shows are expensive to put on - venue fees of £1,000 plus VAT and extra costs of accommodation for officials, First Aid etc etc ... Novice/Open classes - whilst seeing the point about riding in novices if they are on earlier then the show "atmosphere" is likely to be more suitable ie quieter for them - that's the theory anyway! Plus in the case of the Classic the longest period of riding in time is prior to the show.

Marilyn


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Debbie
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Posted - 23 Apr 2009 :  08:58:59 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Debbie to your friends list Send Debbie a Private Message
Funnily enough Marilyn, I don't mind being the first in at an 8am start which we frequently are as my daughter has a LR SP. It then free's up the rest of the day for watching and you can relax.

Debbie
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CINDERS
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Posted - 23 Apr 2009 :  11:27:43 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add CINDERS to your friends list Send CINDERS a Private Message
Like Marilyn a show organiser. For HoCoN the ridden starts so early because to avoid clashes we run the ridden classes in a single ring through the day and even starting at 8.30 we are still often going at 6 p.m.

We've gone over two days as a one day show indoors simply does not work from a time point of view and our venue is not using the grass rings anymore. A decision that was brought forward because of complaints about the ground last year at HoCoN. We know it was pretty bad but having rained almost solidly from Mayday Bank holiday until show day and being Essex clau there was not much we or the venue could do about it

Given some though I am sure people could puttheir heads together and share their stabling
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Roseanne
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Posted - 24 Apr 2009 :  10:23:54 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Roseanne to your friends list Send Roseanne a Private Message
I do appreciate the real dilemmas show organisers have in scheduling the classes so's not to have things clashing or going on until dark. I didn't mean to sound like a moaning minnie!!

HOYS class contenders do travel very long distances to qualifying shows and from the point of view of my particular horse and not wanting to stable him away overnight, 8.30am is early to prepare for a HOYS class if you have hours to drive. (Not that I won't do it though - I love my showing and am VERY grateful to all those who go to so much trouble to organise these shows for our enjoyment!).

In the case of my comment above, it was really concentrated on the move of the timings of the open HOYS classes at the Nationals, which used to be on at lunchtime - which was great for competitors and spectators alike - to the very start of the day.

Roseanne
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azeer
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Posted - 24 Apr 2009 :  6:16:21 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add azeer to your friends list Send azeer a Private Message
Well the good news Roseanne is that the gelding classes are not until Mid morning on the saturday - and maybe if Lance is in the senior class this may end up being midmorning - go on enter - you know you want to
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