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Jules-Apache
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 Posted - 29 Apr 2006 : 9:20:34 PM
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Hi,
I took my chap to Myerscough today, and he had a huge panic attack in the trailer as we went over the speed bumps, and injured his leg (not too serious), and was so stressed I didn't take him in his class.
He's been over them before without any problems, and we always take them really slowly.
I gave him the max dose of sedalin gel to get him home, and stayed in the back with him, while we went out of Myerscough, which seemed to help.
Although once I got out, he seemed v jumpy and was throwing himself around when we went over bumps or turned.
I don't think I'll ever risk taking him to Myerscough again, and I am worried about travelling him now. Again, my Dad always drives v slowly and carefully.
Has anyone else come across a similar problem, and what did you manage to do to get the horse over it?
I've got an Ifor Williams trailer.
Thanks
Jules
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jillandlomond
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Posted - 29 Apr 2006 : 9:42:41 PM
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Hi Jules,
I once had a mare who developed a problem travelling and started to injure her legs as a result. She had always travelled really well, then one day, out of the blue, she started having panic attacks
I resolved this by taking the partition out of the trailer and installed full length breast and breech bars instead. I travelled in the back with her initially to help reassure her and only travelled her for a couple of miles or so to start with.
I noticed that she chose to stand diagonally, making the best use of all the space available to her, which seemed to really help her balance.
After a few practice runs, she was travelling really well again and didn't need me in the back with her.
I never tried her with the partition in again though - didn't want to push my luck!!
Best of luck getting your lad back on track!
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dassa23
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England
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Posted - 30 Apr 2006 : 10:22:22 AM
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Hi, I have had a very similar problem in an Ifor Williams. Coming back from the Royal Bath and West show last year my 12 year old gelding had a really bad panic attack. He had all 4 feet against the outside wall of the trailer and leaning against the middle partition.
He was so bad we had to stop and call the vet to sedate him, then we took him to the equine hospital and he stayed there for 3 days as his side was very sore from the partition and he wouldn't have made it back to the ferry.
There was no reason for this, he had been everywhere before Malvern, London etc. But this day he just wouldn't stand up. I have now been told to travel without the partion. I have been and purchased the long bars, but just haven't plucked up the courage to travel him yet. I think he will be fine - its just me thats not!
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Renee
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Posted - 30 Apr 2006 : 11:05:31 AM
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Hi Jules
I had similar problems with my mare - she would scrabble around like a maniac and even sat down in a (brand new Ifor Williams) trailer, knocked out the partitions in every lorry I put her in, etc, it was a complete nightmare. The solution was to give her a lot more space (at least half again, or even a double size space) in the lorry and take the partition out in a trailer - she stands with her front feet quite wide apart, to balance, and travels perfectly!
It may also be worth taking your boy on a few, easy, level journeys before the next show, just to rebuild his confidence?
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nicolanapper
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Posted - 30 Apr 2006 : 11:18:26 AM
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Where do you get the sedaline gel from, and how does it work.
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Jules-Apache
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Posted - 30 Apr 2006 : 12:00:30 PM
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Thanks everyone - it does sound v similar, I had wondered about swapping my trailer for a single one, looking at the dimensions, they are about 3/4 of the width of the double one, so he would have more space - but hopefully not so much he will fall over.
I do feel v nervous about travelling him again - like you Dassa he's been all over the place, so I really don't understand why it happened.
Nicola - the sedalin gel can only be obtained from your vet, and is ACP in a gel formula. Thankfully I started to carry one around in the show first aid kit - as I'm not sure he would have got home in one peice without it.
Thanks
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nicolanapper
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Posted - 30 Apr 2006 : 2:58:28 PM
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Thanks Jules for that, I shall talk to my vet and obtain some from him.
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baymops
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Posted - 30 Apr 2006 : 10:11:35 PM
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What a worry for you Jules and poor Apache! Those speed bumps are bad and IMO unecessary to have so many.
I always carry a tube of sedalin gel ever since I plucked up the courage to go to Cheshire last year and was worried in case the M6 got closed of something like that.
I used to have a single trailer and Maz travelled well in it, he didn't stand diagonally but he would brace each back leg between the side wall and the ramp and was pretty solid. I worried when I swapped to a double that he couldn't do that but touch wood he has managed. The only thing with singles is that it is quite tight getting them out of the front ramp. I wish I still had mine cos you could have tried it. You could hire one from Barlows to see if it suits him maybe?? |
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alkarif
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Posted - 01 May 2006 : 10:01:42 AM
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I think there are a little too many (speed bumps)at Myerscough, but not everyone travels slowly and carefully! These type of bumps are the worst design ever, better to be platforms at least where livestock transport is concerned. Does the same job but far safer! Hope you get your horse settled and giving him/her more space definitely works.
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heathermcbreen
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Posted - 01 May 2006 : 11:17:28 AM
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| Id stick with a double trailer and take out partitioning. the full length bars are only £30 . Thats how I always travel a single horse. Mine is an Ifor double and I have a cctv camera with a 5" screen on the dash board. I dont know how I ever managed without. It is the best £100 I ever spent and I installed it myself (so must be easy) I notice my horses always stand right in the middle of the trailer slightly on a diagonal and mostly dont rest on anything. Ali falls asleep/dozes. Sometimes if bored he paws the trailer floor with each front foot alternatly. He must feel stable on his pins if he can stand on three to do this. Its really nice to watch them munching hay and know they are ok. I do give a few drops of bach rescue remedy before travelling. Dont know if it helps but I use it on myself too. |
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Pamela
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Posted - 01 May 2006 : 12:50:57 PM
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Hi,
Where did you get your CCTV from / what make is it, as I would be interested in getting one for my trailer. Fab idea.
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heathermcbreen
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jackie k
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Posted - 01 May 2006 : 9:19:24 PM
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I totally agree that there are far too many speed bumps going into the College.
Surely there could be another way of slowing the traffic down.
It doesnt really matter how slow you go over the bumps, you still get the "bump" which can un-nerve the horse.
For an equestrian college, I would like to see if the person designing the roadways had ever travelled a horse before
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baymops
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 May 2006 : 10:00:23 PM
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The problem I find is the "lurch" you get with a twin axel trailer as the first wheel goes over and the bump is between wheels so to speak.
Myerscough is my local venue and I just love the outdoor working in arena and the international arena. The speed bumps are a pain but as you approach the car parks the last few can usually be avoided as when the dressage is on there are no cars parked so you can miss them out completely. That didn't happen this weekend obviously. |
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Lori
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Posted - 02 May 2006 : 01:28:00 AM
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Totally agree with Brenda, far too many speed bumps and the wrong kind!
It was my first time at Myerscough at weekend and was amazed at how many speed bumps there are. Why?? Travelling with a nervous gelding any way i try to give him the best possible ride but when we started over the speed bumps he got agitated. There is no way of getting over these things easily no matter what speed you're going. If you go too slow you're rolling back
I find that giving our gelding more room in the box he is better and have even wondered if he is a little claustrophobic. He doesn't do trailers, he throws himself on the floor.
Maybe as a few have already said, try without the partition. |
     
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Valentine Arabians
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Posted - 02 May 2006 : 3:24:55 PM
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We have a similar problem in our Ifor Williams, with our foundation mare. If she is travelling with another horse, she is as good as gold, but put her in the trailer, with the partition insitu and no other horse and she throws herself around and gets out the other end, white with sweat and shaking from head to toe! We have now discovered that if you take the partition out and she has room to move around (slightly) she is far happier and travels extremely well.
Now, our home bred mare won't load into the trailer via the back ramp! As a yearling, she was travelled on her own to shows, with no partition and her peculiar fetish was facing backwards, so she will only go up the side/front ramp. If she is travelling with another horse, then she will use the back ramp, but we go through a couple of minutes of walking up the ramp and then reversing out at 90mph until she makes up her mind...or gets a shove up the rear end!
It is a different story in our lorry...have absolutely no problems whatsoever.
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Jules-Apache
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Posted - 03 May 2006 : 08:32:30 AM
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Thanks everyone, and Heather thanks for the link re the CCTV I will definately look into that.
I will try him again in a few weeks, on a v short journey, on ACP, to see how he goes.
When we where leaving Myerscough I staying in the back with him, which really seemed to stop him panicing, and I can't describe how awful it feels in the trailer when you go over those bumps. It feels like you've it a 3 foot wall!
Even if he does get over this, I don't think I'll ever risk Myerscough again
Jules
PS - Baymops, I was thinking I'd try and hire a trailer from Barlows and see how that went -thanks
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cassy
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Posted - 03 May 2006 : 2:21:14 PM
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| If you are going to any of the shows i go to Jules and i pass very welcome to put him in lorry with mine and see how he travels, il be travelling mare and foal to midland festival and poss just foal to classic at myerscough, nationals, towerlands, i set off from East yorks, il be travelling day before all shows apart nationals when im there full show with stable wed - sat travel home sun am |
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Erica
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Posted - 13 May 2006 : 8:57:28 PM
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the bumps at myascoe are viciuos specialy were the horses are concerned!!yeh i agree try without the partitions when i used to own one of loris horses we used to travel him in a trailer but then one day he freeked out!!so we bought a wagon thinkin hed be much better!!but still freeked!!so we traveled without the partions in at 1st and travelled like a star!!you wudnt think he was even in there!!then we went n put partitions back in but just give him plenty of room and he travelled like nothing bothered him!!hes a darlin now!! |
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