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glo
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 Posted - 17 Jan 2015 : 07:55:07 AM
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Just wondering if any of you have used this site to loan out a horse, or got one on loan from them?
Is it safer than doing it you self.
Thanks Glo
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barbara.gregory
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 17 Jan 2015 : 12:07:43 PM
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Sorry, can't help but if you do go there ask around and find someone who can vouch for the person, not a friend they give you details of, vet, farrier, local livery yard if the horse will be on a yard. I lost my very precious (and valuable) mare in horrific circumstances She was straight Egyptian and a three quarter sister to the immortal Crusader and I only loaned her as I needed an operation and thought I would be laid up for a month; in the end I was only out of action for a week but had promised her to the loanee so rather than let her down I allowed my mare to go, the biggest regret of my life. I heard nothing bad about her but I was looking in the wrong area as she had moved. She used to live in Cornwall and had moved to a different area. After my mare died I was talking on the phone to a friend in Cornwall and she knew all about her and was horrified that she had had my mare.
Anyone who wants to loan your horse shouldn't mind if you post on here asking for references so long as you ask them to pm you; no slander on an open forum!!!
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faymouse
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 17 Jan 2015 : 10:28:58 PM
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I have not heard good but some bad in that they dont quite do the follow up and pre search they promise.. heard this in a couple of instances.
Ask for details of utility bills etc ,vets refs and as much background as possible. WHW or Blue Cross may be able to advice you on their system. Be very careful.. sometimes bitchiness rears its ugly head but you can rely on vet/farrier/equine dentist to give unbiased backing.. if they wont then be suspicious!
So sorry for your sad story and loss Babara xx |
Edited by - faymouse on 17 Jan 2015 10:30:36 PM |
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Misshana
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England
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Posted - 18 Jan 2015 : 09:23:49 AM
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| When I loaned a TB, I asked for copies of passport and driving licence. Viewed premises where he would be kept, all seemed well. After about 3 months I took him back as was not happy with way he was being kept. About 4 years later, RSPCA turned up on my doorstep enquiring about my horse as said loaner was being taken to court for neglect. So I would say, trust your gut as well. On a more positive note, about 8 years ago I loaned my Arab gelding to Scotland from Lincolnshire and I couldn't have been happier. He has the best home ever and now belongs to someone who has become a friend. I did get a reference from her Vet in this case as it was so far. I still visit and this year went out hacking on him with his new Mum. Thanks Rosemary x |
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glo
Gold Member
England
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Posted - 18 Jan 2015 : 10:14:48 AM
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I have loan out only once and that went all wrong, I have loaned other peoples horses with some success, 1 came thin with a internal infection, so bad that I could not get her in foal and cost 100s to clear up, the other the delivery person warned me that she was a bit thin so I would not be quite so shocked, it was a RSPCA case in my opinion, after breeding a few foals and starting her under saddle she was sold from under me. The last one I still have 9 years later and has been signed over to me.
So there is good and bad, I know that if I had someone else's horse I would keep it as my own and it would have 100% care home ect I just can't seem to be able to trust anyone else.
A lady wants to loan one of my fillies, she sounds like my filly would have the best of homes, my gut says don't do it.
With homes 4 horses if the checks aren't done I don't want to go down that path. To be honest I don't even know if I want to loan her! |
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Mags
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Posted - 19 Jan 2015 : 07:55:06 AM
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| I used homes4horses to loan my TB and couldnt be happier. Normally when I read people been unhappy with it it turns out they havent used it correctly |
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Sahir
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England
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Posted - 19 Jan 2015 : 9:03:59 PM
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| ALWAYS Trust your gut Glo - always !!! (Is it anyone I may know? ) |
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glo
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England
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Pop
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England
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Posted - 20 Jan 2015 : 10:49:17 AM
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I used them to loan a pony out, and I also have a pony on loan via them.
I think it a great service, not perfect, but really good overall. I think a key thing is that its not free, right from the beginning. You have to fill out a long application form, which a time waster is not going to do, and when you submit the form, you have to made a donation, I think it's only £10 but, again, a time waster is not going to pay the £10 just to apply to be considered to be allowed to contact the owner for the possibility of a loan. The application form is quite comprehensive. If they think your application makes you a suitable loanee, then they send it to the owner of the horse/pony you want to see, and if the owner finds your application acceptable, then you are put in touch.
If it all goes well then you have to make another donation, and the owner makes a donation, and so on. It's not alot of money, although I think they have increased the donations a little, and they need to take care that they don't get too cocky. You can say how much you want to donate, but I have heard that they make you think their suggestion is not negotiable, and of course it is.
They will help you check out potential homes by visiting them if you want, and they will help you with the loan agreement if you need help (although I think mine is better than theirs :) )
I feel that a very important part of the loan process is to find out for real, what the motivation to loan is. On both sides: it's important to take care that the person loaning is not just looking for someone to give their horse more experience so that value increases; or they are just dumping a bag of trouble they cannot handle, although this is less likely in the case of a loan rather than purchase.
My own efforts were not successful, I waited long hours for potential loners to turn up and they didn't, and some rather strange people who did turn up, including the one who wanted me to do a ridden presentation of a 'backed' pony, I found the Homes 4 Horses system easy and pleasant. It's so important to establish that the motivation is NOT to get a great pony without having to pay.
It has proved very successful in both getting a loan pony and putting a pony out on loan.
From my experiences, I would recommend them without hesitation.
The loaner and loanee have to get their wallets out, and if you value your time and the well being of your horse, that's (a small amount) of money very well spent. |
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jackiedo
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England
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Posted - 27 Jan 2015 : 07:20:18 AM
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| I have had 2 ponies sold on whilst on loan, but managed to track them down, thankfully and they were in very good homes. I have 5 ponies on long term (lifetime) loan homes one having been with the same family for 13 years. I would second the request for references and also take the registration number of any vehicle they come in and also ask for photographic ID such as a passport or driving licence. It may be worth contacting the Animal Health dept of the council where they are to see if they are known to them, and googling the phone number |
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