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Rozy Rider
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 Posted - 21 Jun 2010 : 02:31:30 AM
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Just back from a lovely weekend at Cirencester Park..what a location. Well Done to the organising team, everyone really enjoyed themselves... few snaps. a few results. and good to see the sunshine on Sunday.
In the FEI 160k Haszar lead from the start, riding his own race, he looked amazing all day, we saw him go out of the venue at 6am and he looked exactly the same when we saw him come back in at tea time, with two loops to go.
Crewing in the FEI 90* for Linda Cross's Kizhi with Mel Davison up,this was Kizhi's first attempt at the FEI one star, she looked bright and went well all day, giving quick presentations and securing the second place in this fei step up class. At the finish, Mel said how delighted she was on how the vets shook her hand and congratulated her on her pass.
Nikki Malcolm and Khartoum with a K , took the winners spot in this race ride, at one point there was just (5) mins between these two front runners, at times they were hitting the 18k - 20k mark, Nikki kicked on to widen the gap and take the prize.
Caroline Bennetts and Zaha took the third place. Well Done folks.
Cheers
Sue
FEI 160k (3 starters)
David Yeoman & Haszar - 13.62.
Clare Bruce -Abu Diba -13.62
Heather Whitely - Shabafabah 12.23
No finishers in 160 ER. (2 starters)
FEI 120** (5 starters)
Rachel & Nazeeka - 15.76
Lindsey Comben & Radhwan - 13.74
Kirsty & Escar -13.00.
100kER - Denbigh Slate.
Caroline Edwards - Oakways P G - 17.12
Karen Jones - Macadamia - 16.69
Lorna Kidson & P. Dreamboat -16.13
Emma Sharpe -Carot -14.09.
FEI 90k * (6 starter)
Nikki Malcolm - Khartoum with a K 17.34? (Khairo/Dras Lass)
Mel Davison & Kizhi - 16.47 (Khairouan/Sucha)
Caroline Bennett - Zaha
Jane James & Kalway
Amanda May & S Al Bahrain.
130k over 2 days.
Christine Yeoman & Mazri led throughout day 1 setting the pace as usuall, then went out at the start of Day 2 not quite right.
Mark Weil & WFA Prophacy ??? Looking extreamly good all day...
Mary Korn finshed. poss in 3rd position. Smiles all round for this team.
Pam Jordan & Orial, was still in and looking good when we left for home(so Pam I hope you completed). Bit of guess work here.
80kER.Corinium.
Hillary Cummings - Benzuga - 15.37
Sue Higgins & Another Rose -14.96
Rachel Rogerson - F B Chantanz
Becky Cook - Indian Duke -14.36
all my results need conformation.
Sue Higging's young mare, bred in Wales, but with some of the very best USA blood from the dam's side. Well done Sue she looked great.
 Ken & Labib and Springvale Moonshine. Welcome back Ken & Val...
 Kiss for Kizhi. 2nd.FEI 90*..
 Ling & Malc - multi tasking.
 Debret & Linda.
 Nazeeka.
 Fiona Hamilton & Gazal.
 Nikki & Khartoum with a K, crewing at B.
 Jane Tennant with Alex's Vlacq Sihr Kayal
 Rubicon taking a roll.
 Olwyn and Mahlakah
 Lorna Kidson & Madam Dynamite.
 Another Rose , Just over the line, with team.
 Heather Whiteley & Anglo - Shahfabah. placed in the 160k.
 Lesley List.
 Aberllwyds Another Rose & Sue. 2nd. 84k ER Corinium.
 Chiana & Frayya.
 Trail Riders
All results to be confirmed, and if anyone can update us on how Maurice is doing after I understand his horse came over backwards on him and he was shipped of to hospital.
We also heard, that one horse was dead overnight in the temporary stables and that someone or a horse had broken a leg. No more info..
Thanks
Sue
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Lin123
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Posted - 23 Jun 2010 : 11:57:03 PM
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Thanks for the info and all the photos Sue, really brings the event to life. Can't thank you and Cliff enough for all of your help crewing over the weekend (and for feeding me too!) and really pleased you were there to share.
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 24 Jun 2010 : 01:37:56 AM
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The sucess, sorry I forgot the Champagne, just when the horses do well, I forget the champus. Lovely pictures of Kizhi from the AGC website..did'nt she look and do well, bless.
How about Malc...multi tasking..and what do they say about men....he's a star..Lost his shoof boot on the first 40k and found it again on the second 40k...just in time as he lost a shoe, got kicked in the head putting the shoof on, headed by branches and scratched to bits......but passed the vet with flying colours.
What a star.
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Not forgetting Gazal...did'nt she do well, 2nd in the 65k Performance Formula. another pat on the back for the trainers..you know who...
Lovely weekend...Still smiling, just eat the last of the cake up today (thank goodness).
Catch you later.
Sue
PS. Sorry to hear they lost a horse after he got cast in trailer. Very sad.
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lisa rachel
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Posted - 24 Jun 2010 : 07:16:42 AM
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Bloody performance formula, I bet Harry he wouldn't be in the first 5 in the 65km class as there were some good horses in there. He won the class so now I owe him a proper 3 course meal plus all washing up !
Apart from that a fab w/e and both Sealy and Bryn really enjoyed themselves...Thanks to organisers!
Cheers
Lisa
edited to add my heart goes out to the owner of the horse lost in the trailer accident, tragedy. |
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 24 Jun 2010 : 11:29:15 AM
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Lisa, I think the heartrates were around the 40 mark, not any lower that day, some of the speeds took to sorting it out, have you looked at the figures yet.
Good job the chap who won it last year (Alan Brown) stayed away, he got a 36bpm and walked off with a lovely trophy to keep... Do you know if Harry got a trophy this year. He did well... pay up..
and keep smiling.
Cheers Sue
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lisa rachel
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Posted - 24 Jun 2010 : 7:35:48 PM
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Yes I saw the figures... Sealy's pulse always goes up a bit between crewing and vetting at Cirencester but not elsewhere... I don't know why... I have always blamed the Arab tenty thing but that wasn't there this year... mind you the Red Arrows didn't help, she was 46 which is par for the course at Cirencester for her, though she was less than 40 when I crewed her. Anyway she is happy and sound and was very put out on Tuesday when I took Bryn out for a ride first!
Will try to remember to ring Mavis tomorrow! |
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Zawadi
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Posted - 26 Jun 2010 : 3:31:28 PM
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Lisa/Harry - I did say to a sceptical Harry (just after he vetted) that he'd have won the PF when he told me the speed - I bet he'd have still won it with a significantly higher pulse. And now, no demurring over doing an ER! With Sealy taking him round at that speed, no excuse now! To win ERs, maybe some running will help - but what a super horse!
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 27 Jun 2010 : 1:54:38 PM
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Number, Rider, Horse, Heartrate, Kmph, PF, Place.
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Fiona Hamilton
Gazal
43
14.83
45.58
2nd
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Jane Smith
Hmarr
46
12.65
33.04
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Claire Barry
Charlotte Moon
W/D
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Olwen Bryer
Bey Dryad
W/D
20
Michelle Macleod
LM Midday
W/D
21
Sarah Wyatt
Psynrtra
55
11.72
24.36
22
Tina Griffiths
Shareef
49
14.94
40.41
4th
23
Jenny Pierson
Al Assi
50
12.90
31.60
24
Larissa Whiley
Equiloan Phoebes Gold
46
12.45
32.17
25
Margaret McKiddie
Scotch Mist
W/D
26
Bethany Stokes
Maximillion
44
12.45
33.64
27
Sue Speed
Silver Tariba
43
13.75
40.47
3rd
28
Lesley List
Radwaan
50
14.61
38.40
6th
29
Donna Taylor
Sky Indigo
42
11.68
31.43
30
Kim Bonny
Appledore Fordango
41
Ginny Gidley
Desert Kudoss
40
12.90
39.50
5th
42
Janet Kirkham
Indian Nuhra
43
Helen Newton
Ley Lader
58
13.11
27.93
44
Lesley Dunn
Chiana
42
12.04
33.33
45
Rosemary Lathey
Onyali
51
11.75
26.27
46
Ruth Chadwick
Mustafanother R
46
12.82
29.57
47
Maria Stapley
Frayaa
49
12.04
28.57
48
Harry Adshead
Sealeah Myranda
46
15.84
46.96
1st
49
Gerina Corcoran
Favian Southey Star
44
12.82
36.28
50
Molly Corcoran
Pilheath Royal Paddy
55
12.82
28.36
51
Brett Corcoran
Aristotle Bay
45
13.24
36.44
52
Geraldine White
El Shaddia
Lame
½ way
LF/RH
53
Sally Mellor
Halim El Shaklan
48
11.72
27.92
54
Katy Mellor
Angelina Ginny
54
11.72
24.81
55
Suzanne Garlick
Shushi
41
11.25
30.24
56
Charlotte Robinson
French Cracker
Class 9
57
Sarah Ewert
Autumn Reflection
42
13.07
38.10
58
Elizabeth Partington
Xanthus
Lame
R/F
59
Jodie Watts
Lickeen Lakeview Milo
48
11.68
27.50
67
Sue Henry
Monkey Boy
44
11.65
30.00
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Clutha
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Posted - 27 Jun 2010 : 2:52:19 PM
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I had a look at the PF equation & reckoned that speed has a bigger effect than pulse due to the multiplication factors. So you're better going quicker & having hr slightly higher than going very steady & trying for a really low HR. This was shown to work at berks downs 130km, where Sue got 3rd of a higher hr (found he had cracked heals at the end so it didn't drop like it had done in all the vet gates), because she'd had a very good speed. All depends on how much you trust my maths....
Anyone know who the photographer was please & if they have a website? |
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Helen Newton
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Posted - 28 Jun 2010 : 10:26:28 AM
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Rooster (Ley Lader) and I did the whole 65k on our own except for the last 200 metres where the 3 leaders in the race ride overtook us and we got caught up in the racing finish That my excuse for the moderate speed and relatively high rate at the end We had a super time, the scenery was stunning and the organisation excellent, one of my favourite rides. The only downside was that I was made to feel about an inch high when I enquired out of interest about the placings and was told that I need not worry about staying for the presentation as I was at least 20 points behind the winner! That put me in my place didn't it? Just took a little of the shine off the day.
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 28 Jun 2010 : 7:04:26 PM
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Hi Helen, And I bet I can name the person in one...
Good job the Shropshire bloke was missing, he'd have done it on heartrate alone.
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Did'nt Saffy look good..did you feel a little proud, that her in the first of my pics.
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Helen Newton
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Posted - 28 Jun 2010 : 8:59:51 PM
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Yes Saffy looked lovely (to anyone who doesn't know she is my El Carmaal's one and only living progeny ). Good to see Val and Ken (if you pm me Sue I will tell you if you are right about who it was) Oh and I briefly met Rooster's breeder, Sue Smith and asked her why he was named Ley Lader (she couldn't remember), apparently his dam, Pacifica, was one of the Sheik's favourite mares. |
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lisa rachel
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 29 Jun 2010 : 10:08:03 AM
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Thanks for adding the photographers link, AGC seem to have done a very good job, some lovely photo's on view there and for anyone who has never done Cirencester, some stunning pics of the site and park, the avenue to ride in, goes on for ever.. I know our horse owner bought all the 3 or 4 pics of Kizhi (p.8- orange bib.23) could not decide amoungst them, all lovely photos.He's a really nice chap, we chatted for ages, waiting for the horses to appear in the distance.
Helen, I think Roosters name was made up from the sire's name, don't know any more..V adeer. Pleased to see your doing well.
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firstlady
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Posted - 01 Jul 2010 : 10:18:07 AM
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just caught up with this and wanted to say
 congratulations  to Hary and Sealy and
Lol at Lisa having to do the cooking and washing up !!!!
mind you just a short hack for Lisa and Harry
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lisa rachel
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Posted - 02 Jul 2010 : 9:29:02 PM
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Thanks Debbie
How is your new young man???
Have you seen that the Gower egb is clashing with the Crabbet show
Thay did promise that they would change the date apparently but it hasn't changed 
cheers
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firstlady
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Posted - 04 Jul 2010 : 9:08:11 PM
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Hi Lisa
the little man is fab,I'm totally smitten
yes noticed the Crabbet/Gower egb clash so looks like it could be busy weekend !!!!
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lisa rachel
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Posted - 08 Jul 2010 : 10:38:06 AM
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Can't wait to see the new boy Debbie!!
The Crabbet Show/ Gower clash is such a shame, they had a discussion in the spring and Mandy thought that they had agreed to change dates so I thought we could do both but that is not the case. There are no competitive rides on the Sat except the first part of the 100km day, which Harry wanted to do. The second part of this and all other rides are on the Sunday, clashing with the show
Obviously I wanted to do the Gower ride with Bryn as well, but on the other hand how many performance Arab shows are there in Wales each year??
A real shame as last year lots of the horses at the show were also endurance horses (and racehorses) weren't they? Lots of people are going to have to give one or the other a miss.
Also Harry designs the Handy Arab but also wanted to do the Gower Gambol.... v frusrating!
Hope you are well and to see you soon!
Cheers
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firstlady
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Posted - 08 Jul 2010 : 10:46:26 PM
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Hi Lisa
yes that is such a shame and a also shows a bit of bad planning from De Cymru
two excellent events on the same day 
and with the way other rides have been going all down on entries
then the ride could potentialy be greatly affected
I have actually e-mailed ride organiser to ask if there was any possibility of changing the date of the ride as I'm sure they will be others with the same decision to make
For me there is only one Crabbet show but lots of rides to be had (maybe not too many in our neck of the woods though !!!!)
You (& Bryn )got to be there ...... and Harry and Sealy are the handy (& very handy ) arab experts
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Ryu
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Posted - 09 Jul 2010 : 1:26:52 PM
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It is a shame that these events clash.
I for one won't be missing the Crabbet show
However there is always Mynydd y Gaer on 15th August which is just outside Bridgend.
I think it wasn't a matter of "bad planning" but trying to fit it in around the Organiser's University exams, the fact that we are unable to use part of the route until after the end of August, the fact that the Welsh Festival of the Horse is the previous weekend, Tintern ride is the week after, Offa's Dyke have a training ride the week after that and the Red Dragon follows....
I think that he was always going to be in a no win situation other than to not put a ride on at all.
Also please be aware that it is a brave thing to organise a ride when one is so young so please don't be too hard on him. |
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Posted - 09 Jul 2010 : 6:41:34 PM
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| I hope the date of the Gower doesn't change as am hoping to do it as will miss Red Dragon due to being in Kentucky! Please remember that many of us don't only compete on Arabs. We are hoping to take an Arab to Gower, but also a part bred Welsh and a Connemara. |
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lisa rachel
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Posted - 09 Jul 2010 : 9:24:59 PM
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oh, I don't think that anyone was 'having a go' at the ride organiser as an individual, I certainly wasn't nor, I am certain was First Lady, that is not the sort of person she is.
I think that ride organisers do a truly wonderful, underappreciated job. However I did email the organiser a few days ago, thanking him for putting on what I am sure will be a lovely and successful ride. I did point out the clash to him, very politely, as hopefully it can be avoided next year, if it is too late this year, I did also comment that I appreciated how difficult scheduling could be and did not want to give him a headache!! He has not replied to my email.
As I understand it the reason that this has been a bit of an issue is that the show established itself on that date last year. When the show organiser realised the potential clash ... and she too rode endurance for years... she POLITELY pointed this out to egb De Cymru, who apparently were very helpful and she was left with the impression that they would change the date if possible and if not, they would let her know , she heard no more and assumed that the date had been changed. This in any case is what I had been led to believe. I was in fact about to put my entries in for Gower when I realised that the date had not, after all been changed.
I am very far from being a 'show' person but this is a performance show and quite a number of the horses entered last year are, for their main career, endurance horses. I can think of about eight horses who will be affected by this clash, off the top of my head, not a huge number but significant for a new show, as most would enter 3 or 4 classes.
To clarify, at least my position....
I am grateful to egb De Cymru for organising new rides this year which we will support.
I would never be rude or discouraging to a ride organiser and appreciate their efforts.
I am aware that, obviously, not everyone rides Arabs but the converse is that many people likely to compete at this show DO also ride endurance, this is the point.
I just think it is a shame that it was not possible to avoid a clash and furthermore that the show organiser was not done the courtesy of being kept in the picture having , as far as I am aware, been given assurances that she would be told if a change was impossible..
As it stands, the show, and ride will lose entries which is a pity, though I hope everyone enjoys the day, whichever event they chose to support.
Sorry this has gone off thread, see you at Mynydd y Gaer!
Cheers
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Posted - 10 Jul 2010 : 12:43:29 PM
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Thanks Lisa and I wasn't 'having a go' as it is a brave thing to try and organise a ride and often the hard work does go unappreciated or taken for granted .... but it is a real shame that the dates weren't moved and that Mandy from the Crabbet show kept in touch with or informed that the dates weren't going to be changed
I too will be at the Crabbet show and hopefully at Mynydd y Gaer
sorry to hijack thread 
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CeliaS
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Posted - 11 Jul 2010 : 3:44:18 PM
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Dear Firstlady and Lisa Rachel
I think it should also be noted that not a single Crabbet arabian came to last year's Gower ride which was held in August and did not clash at all with 2009 Crabbet Show. The horses that did come were TBs and TB crosses, a warmblood cross, some ponies, and some arabs (not Crabbet).
Sorry to hijack Cirencester thread.
PS I enjoyed Cirencester, hope to be at Gower and also at the Crabbet Show, grooming for my friend as I did last year. |
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lisa rachel
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Posted - 12 Jul 2010 : 12:46:24 AM
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I can't find the Gower results on the egb Archive for last year, it only mentions 2010 or one in 1985!
The reason I looked is I can't understand how we managed to let a competitive ride on Gower pass us by last year!!! We live close to Gower and were doing all the rides we could last year .... maybe it clashed with Barbary Castle? can't remember at all...!! I will check!!
I am surprised that the likes of Ptolemaeus didn't compete though!
Seriously though Celia, I am sorry that this has all got out of proportion I really am, I never wanted to upset anyone.The fact is though that I can think of quite a few horses who WILL be affected this time, our two included! Others are mentioned above.
Nothing can be done now and we will all make our choices, as I said before, I wish the show and ride well and just we could do both !!
Again I really am sorry if anyone has taken my comments the wrong way, I think De Cymru are doing a great job and have even forgiven them for nicking our clinic's logo
Cheers
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