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sapphire blue
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 Posted - 30 Apr 2007 : 2:49:46 PM
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Hi, my newish colt is very highly strung and is set to be gelded but someone also suggested to help him use a calmer, I have started with the top spec calmer but was wondering which people have found the best and also how long roughly it takes to work?
I know it is different for all but some rule of thumb and majority might help thanks
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Arachnid
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England
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Posted - 30 Apr 2007 : 5:01:19 PM
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| I have been using 'Magic' for a week. Cant say I've noticed any difference so far, but perhaps it takes longer than that. Just going to use it to get over the tricky spring grass issue.. |
   
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Nikkisian89
Silver Member
England
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Posted - 30 Apr 2007 : 6:25:23 PM
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Good topic! I was thinking of asking the same question! My gelding is coming up 5-years and he is a highly strung, nervous and spooky boy.
Anyone recommend anything?  |
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Kezia
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England
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Posted - 30 Apr 2007 : 6:53:44 PM
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I very rarely make any recommendations for feed etc, but the calmer I have used for the past year is absolutely SUPERB! I had the same problem with my recently gelded gelding when I got him and the difference since using it has been phenomenal. The product is Global Herbs RigCalm and also their SuperCalm which I have switched him onto now which is a bit cheaper and seems just as good. Can't recommend it enough!
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annas
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 30 Apr 2007 : 7:25:24 PM
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| I too can recommend Rig Calm, my feed merchant who stocks absolutely everything suggested it as she's had great feedback with it. Rupert seems much happier and a lot less colty now. |
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sandstorm
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Posted - 30 Apr 2007 : 8:23:22 PM
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I can recommend rigcalm as well , i have just started my 3yold colt on it as he was getting a bit excited with the mares coming into season , he has settled after a week and is still able to go out with my anglo gelding, which makes my life a lot easier.
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Timberwolf
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England
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Posted - 30 Apr 2007 : 8:51:52 PM
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Hi All, Like the sound of this Rigcalm but can you tell me is it just for males? I have been using for the past couple of months the NAF 5 star magic calmer which seems to suit my mare who is generally quite spooky and extremely sharp. It doesnt affect her sparkle at all but just seems to take the edge off her and makes her much more of a pleasure to ride.
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Moira
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Scotland
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Posted - 30 Apr 2007 : 8:55:39 PM
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Equimins Serenity is fab.
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Judith S
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annas
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 30 Apr 2007 : 9:51:35 PM
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| I think the 'rig' calm is specifically for males but there must be an equivalent by the same manufacturer for mares. I would try it as the Rig Calm has been phenomonal with Rupert. |
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Rozy Rider
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 30 Apr 2007 : 11:35:02 PM
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anybody have any idea whats in the rig calm. and does anyone use or tried Epson salts (magnesium sulphate).
I've also used, Bach flower when riding out a young horse for the first few times...anyone tried this... |
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LIV
Gold Member
England
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Posted - 01 May 2007 : 06:56:55 AM
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NAF 5 Star Magic calmer is good. It is just magnesium and doesn't contain any of the banned substances such as L-tryptophan, etc. It is basically Calcined Magnesite, which is also very good for breaking down fatty deposits in laminitics. Magnesium Sulphate (Epsom Salts) isn't so great as it makes them very loose. I think they have banned (or are about to) Magnesium Sulphate in racing as they use it to purge them before a race!
You do have to be careful with some of the calmers. The new Karma out by Blue Chip I have been told is basically Epsom Salts.
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shah
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England
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Posted - 01 May 2007 : 07:51:31 AM
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I too use Naf's Magic Calmer with good result for my gelding, but it did take a while before I noticed a difference. Must admit that he gets an extra small teaspoon of pure magnesium oxide too at this time of the year. The more magnesium the better it seems with him. I was able to hack out on our own on a windy day yesterday for the first time, without major problems, just small spooks
I have tried Epsom salts in the past but they can have detrimental effects on the liver/kidneys/tummys if you use them on a long term basis, which is why I swapped to pure mag oxide instead. There's a good long thread in the Panel about magnesium if you search for it. |
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Kazzy
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England
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Posted - 01 May 2007 : 08:17:48 AM
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I too have been using the NAF Magic Magnesium calmer, I am now on my second bucket and I think it has calmed him down a little bit, he can
be very very hyperactive but has never really been a spooky horse, but just gets quite excitable at times and I *Think* it has started
to work.
My Vet recommended it for him because (a) it will calm him down a lot, and (b) because of a Laminitis history in his family aswell.
A big plus is that he eats it aswell because he is the worlds fussiest eater, I used Global Herbs products on my mare and tried it
on him but he refuses to eat it
Janet
ps forgot to say they say it takes at least 1 bucket to get into their system. |
     
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Kezia
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England
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Posted - 01 May 2007 : 12:23:08 PM
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Regarding what is in Rigcalm, it is all natural products and does not contravene Jockey Club rules so is 'safe' for feeding whilst competing too. If you visit their website (do a google search for Global Herbs - didn't want to advertise on here!) then you will find more info, and if you ring them they are SOOO helpful and will advise what is best for your horse and tell you what is in the products.
Re feeding to mares, they do another product called Super Calm which is just as good and can be fed to either. |
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paul_exe
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 May 2007 : 2:20:01 PM
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I too use Global Super calm. Works wonders.
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Arachnid
Platinum Member
England
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Posted - 01 May 2007 : 5:41:46 PM
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| Actually I think the Magic NAF stuff might be working, that and 24/7 turnout which has just started for the summer. Had a VERY chilled little horse today which was just great |
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leezee26
Gold Member
England
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Posted - 02 May 2007 : 7:15:55 PM
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| Hi, I feed my lot the Simple Systems feed but buy in the supplements seperatly. Brewers yeast is fantastic, and for hormonal girlies (Can be just as good with the boys) A teaspoon of epsom salts per day works wonders!! My boy arrived incrediby nervy and scared of everything-we havent looked back, nearly a year on and you wouldnt know it was the same horse!! Best of luck. Lx |
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katherineepea
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England
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Posted - 02 May 2007 : 7:20:14 PM
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| when i emailed metabolic horse about getting some mag oxide for feet she said the dose can be quadrupled (4tsps) for things like loading and clipping |
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arabic
Platinum Member
England
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Posted - 02 May 2007 : 9:25:47 PM
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| Freddie is generally cool calm and collected but occasionally things such as fireworks really set him off. I have found natra calms wonderful. Especially as I dont need an ongoing calmer they work really quickly and the effect soon wears off - its ideal as a temporary measure. |
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Nic
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 03 May 2007 : 12:21:58 PM
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I am a fan of Steady-Up I have used it for the last 10 years on various horses. I think it helps them 'see sense' if you know what I mean as I don't really want a quiet horse just one that is calm enough to think about things and not panic. I usually find it good for novice horses and it is not something I would like to use permanently but perhaps in the competition season?
I don't think any of them work if people also overfeed their horses.
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