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xsara
Posted - 08 Mar 2011 : 11:59:31 PM we got a racehorse in to train about 2 weeks ago. He is very obese his owner has spoiled him rotten and is very heavy. He has been doing lots of slow slow work. I was sent in to tack him up this morn and found he was swollen around his pasterns and inside of fetlock joint. I thought to start with sesimoiditis, was puzzled as he had very hot feet and a pounding pulse in both front feet. I took him out and said have a look at this horse dont think he is right jogged him up very shuffly, and odd lame step but was told he alright kick on. So trotting round for bout 4 laps to well warm up person running yard asked how is he I said still no better o canter him any way, So cantered him which he did not too badly then had to take him and give him a jump too he did trot up a little sounder when finished. Well this afternoon he was lying down alot had to go and chase him up couple of times to change rug, brush etc which he was reluctant. He sent black smith in to look at him has he has a crack on the opposite foot he was lame but yard manager was insisting this was the problem, or cause he was bit foot sore when he was shod two weeks ago. He has sensitive feet so I was told. He then got me to pull him out so he could spray his feet with purple spray his four feet are very very hot and a really strong pounding pulse in two fronts, horse was shifting weight from one to other and standing with a foot pointing his worst one. He was very reluctant to walk down passage and I said to manager look you have to be very careful with this horse as with his weight he would be very prone to laminitis. he just passed it off and said yeah too much feeding before he came. I said to give this horse very little feed and couple of bute or any thing stronger if there is anything. I gave him a bale of shavings to really support him and give him a really deep floor and was down again with ten minutes. Feed time came I didn't feed him as I was away giving haylage which I only gave him a small amount as we have no hay. Well he gave him his normal feed 2 round scoops of pony nuts and only gave him one bute so checked him tonight still pounding pulse standing in middle of bed looking very unconfortable and now his legs are starting to fill as well. lots of heat and tender even when I was trying to feel down his legs. I suspect strongly laminitis but wonder why the tender in his legs and swelling legs, and fetlocks and pastern. My thought was pos inflammation of his sesamoids due to the strain which has caused the feet. will see how he is in morn but I have voiced my opinion and I know if he was mine I would have the vet out asap but the manager Is a bit stupid thinks he knows it all and knows nothing and If we ever voice what we think usually goes out of his way to do opposite as it has to be him in control etc. And I cant check for pulse in hind feet as he kept kicking at me as he is a kicker
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xsara
Posted - 09 Mar 2011 : 5:23:37 PM Thanks the owner is down tommorrow he was no worse today but no better either. His feet just aren't as warm but the pounding pulse is still there and is on bute twice a day. the yard manager is a bit of an idiot, and still hasn't even thought of getting a vet. His legs weren't just as swoll, and there is still alot of heat round the coronory, and pastern and pointing the one toe. The other girl on yard also suspects he has a mild dose of lami and to be honest I think if it was another horse with the pulse he has would be crippled poor lad.
pinkvboots
Posted - 09 Mar 2011 : 1:01:33 PM Thinking about it as Lami is lack of blood flow to the foot it would and could cause swelling of the legs and Lyphangitis, but whatever it is a vet is really necessary.
Pasha
Posted - 09 Mar 2011 : 12:08:13 PM Shesky got Lymphangitis when he had Lami (in a front leg)... his legs also swelled when he was on box rest with suspected Low Grade Lami a month ago and he also got an odeama on his belly... this (I believe) was more a symptom of his Insulin Resistance rather than Lami, but I agree with the others in that he needs to see the vet ASAP!
Whatever the cause of this (and we can only speculate), all would require immediate veterinary treatment!
jaj
Posted - 09 Mar 2011 : 11:06:19 AM I immediately thought lymphangitis too Pinkyboots. Poor horse .
pinkvboots
Posted - 09 Mar 2011 : 09:47:14 AM Agree with everyone else the horse needs a vet, its ok making judgements on certain ailments and avoid a vet bill, but the horse is obviously in pain I would speak to the owner and recommend a vet as soon as possible.
Sounds like Lymphangitis,or some sort of infection, never heard of legs swelling with Lami.
DEA
Posted - 09 Mar 2011 : 09:13:07 AM This is awful, you say yard manager? Not the owner? Who actually owns the horse? I would go above his head, to his boss or the owner. Obviously the yard manager is not going to thank you for this but its not like you haven't tried to speak with him, he has just ignored you, therefore in the interest of the horse i would go above him, express your concerns, and get a vet out asap
jaj
Posted - 09 Mar 2011 : 08:59:50 AM I read this with horror - they need to GET THE VET and quickly! I know he's not your horse but that is appalling
jillandlomond
Posted - 09 Mar 2011 : 07:49:29 AM This horse is clearly in need of veterinary attention without delay! He most definately should NOT be ridden, and as for the "manager" calling the shots....Does this man have a trainer's licence?? If so, that is very worrying indeed!
SarahA
Posted - 09 Mar 2011 : 12:49:09 AM Ops, sorry didn't read properly, just realised she isn't actually yours.... Ooops sorry :))) in my defence it is late and I can't sleep.
SarahA
Posted - 09 Mar 2011 : 12:44:29 AM Ps. Sorry forgot to say, I have known quite a few lamanitics over the years but non have been tender to touch on the legs. I stand to be corrected but I don't think this is a symptom of laminitis.
SarahA
Posted - 09 Mar 2011 : 12:39:18 AM Hi, I am sure you have already thought of this but could it be gravel? I am saying this as twice recently two horses have presented with lameness, both gradually getting worse, one mare collapsed with pain and was impossible to move, both mares had lamanitic stance although it sounds like yours doesn't, and one mare was even diagnosed by a vet as lamanitic and both turned out to have an something in the feet, both presented with a pulse and hot feet.
Severe laminitis has no heat in the feet by the way, the blood supply has been restricted and cut off so the front section of hoof is cold with heat to the rear/bulb.
Also, if you haven't been over feeding her and you have had her a few weeks then she is unlikely to get it now related to feeding, unless it is concussion, stress or viral laminitis
In saying all this I would always treat for laminitis if suspected and it sounds like you are, and I would ignore the yard owner and call a vet, the quicker you act the better IMO.
Hope all goes well, and I will keep my fingers x for you
he did trot up a little sounder when finished. 
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....Does this man have a trainer's licence?? If so, that is very worrying indeed!