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Qui Gon Jinn
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Posted - 10 Jul 2011 :  7:47:41 PM  Show Profile  Visit Qui Gon Jinn's Homepage Bookmark this topic Add Qui Gon Jinn to your friends list Send Qui Gon Jinn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Merlyn has always been great on his canter stike offs and always correct on each rein. However he has now started to strike off wrong when ridden on the right rein, and I'm at a loss as to how this has started. He is fine on the lunge, but constantly gets it wrong when ridden.

I've tried the usual things of making sure that his trot is forward and smooth and that I am rising on the correct diagonal, but he still manages to get himself in knots!! He has just turned 6 and still got some maturing to do, and I wondered if it was something to do with that. He also had his teeth seen to a few weeks ago as he was unsettled in his mouth and is happy in his bit again. He is having a visit from the saddler tomorow to make sure that is all fine too.

Any idea's as to what else I could try or is it just a phase, now that he is having to work harder?! I am even at the stage of exagerating my aids so that he is fully aware of what I'm asking, but still getting it wrong!

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Kharidian
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Posted - 10 Jul 2011 :  8:09:59 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kharidian to your friends list Send Kharidian a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Is he 100% sound? If he has even a minor problem with his NEAR hind (the first step in canter on the right rein) then he'll not strike off correctly.

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Qui Gon Jinn
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Posted - 10 Jul 2011 :  8:54:11 PM  Show Profile  Visit Qui Gon Jinn's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Qui Gon Jinn to your friends list Send Qui Gon Jinn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hmm....I don't think so. I haven't found him to be lame in any way. My other half was watching me in the arena tonight and is always very good about spotting unsoundness and he didn't see anything odd about Merlyn's movement.

Worth investigating though, thanks. It all seems to co-incide with him having his teeth done, but that of course could be purely coincidental.

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T42
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Posted - 10 Jul 2011 :  9:44:57 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add T42 to your friends list Send T42 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
They sometimes get a bit tense when they are having their teeth done. Could he be a bit sore in his back because of that? When I ask for canter on green horses I lift & open my inside hand, as I come into the short side of the arena, keeping a firm contact on the outside rein & then ask for canter with quite a strong aid. It usually works, but I'm terrible for giving away the outside rein & that's usually the problem. Hope you sort it out. Don't suppose he's had a growth spurt?
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Qui Gon Jinn
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Posted - 10 Jul 2011 :  10:13:03 PM  Show Profile  Visit Qui Gon Jinn's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Qui Gon Jinn to your friends list Send Qui Gon Jinn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks for that T42. He has changed shape slightly, so it could all be saddle relevant. I'll find out tomorrow hopefully after we've seen the saddler.

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Libby Frost
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Posted - 10 Jul 2011 :  10:46:05 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Libby Frost to your friends list Send Libby Frost a Private Message  Reply with Quote
horses are usually stiffer on one side. Try sitting to the trot well before the corner , and doing a 5 meter circle then on exit, ask for canter, your horse will then be on the correct bend, also try over exaggerating how far back you put your outside leg as this often helps

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ali bali
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Posted - 10 Jul 2011 :  10:48:28 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ali bali to your friends list Send ali bali a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You haven't tweeked your back have you? Every time my back flares up I struggle with right canter lead and its because I am sitting a little crooked and my weight has shifted to wrong place. Thats when I know its time for a trip to the physio!
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Qui Gon Jinn
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Posted - 11 Jul 2011 :  09:18:57 AM  Show Profile  Visit Qui Gon Jinn's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Qui Gon Jinn to your friends list Send Qui Gon Jinn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks Libby Frost I'll give that a try. Ali Bali, I've got a bit of a stiff shoulder and neck at the moment (my left hand side) and I did wonder after some other comments on another site, if the problem could be related to that too Think I could be falling to bits!

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ali bali
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Posted - 11 Jul 2011 :  2:06:34 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ali bali to your friends list Send ali bali a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I only thought of that because the physio is coming out to put me back together next week! Old injuries are a pain in the mind you new ones aren't much fun either... Hope you get it sorted Al x
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EJ
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Posted - 21 Jan 2013 :  11:04:52 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add EJ to your friends list Send EJ a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My boy always strikes off on the wrong leg he is still a baby and my canter is not yet established on the right rein but had my first lesson the other day and told my instructor of the problem i said i've tryed every thing like asking in the corner asking n a circle etc he put a pole just one in the corner for me to go overand just before the pole i asked for canter and got the correct leg straight away was gob smacked! now he pretty much is getting it every time as it puts them in the right place i've never heard of doing this so might be worth a try x
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Mrs Vlacq
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Posted - 23 Jun 2013 :  1:18:33 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mrs Vlacq to your friends list Send Mrs Vlacq a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Try pointedly looking to the outside as you ask for canter - you may be so aware of the issue that you're sort of inviting it. Swinging your head to look to the outside is often enough to aligh your shoulders and hips (and hence his shoulders) to the correct position that he will give the correct lead.


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Sue J
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Posted - 28 Jun 2013 :  08:48:15 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sue J to your friends list Send Sue J a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It may be worth getting your saddle checked. When I started to have a problem a few months ago with my mare breaking on wrong lead I had her saddle checked and re-balanced, she has been fine since.

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