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CINDERS
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Posted - 02 Jun 2009 :  11:06:22 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add CINDERS to your friends list Send CINDERS a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It is come to our attention that a group of exhibitors have misgivings about one of our in hand judges who may be competing on the ridden day.

The Committee of the HoCoN group would like to state that we took this under advisement from four senior DCs and the Chairman of the Shows and Events committee and it was confirmed to us that on the basis that only the in hand classes are under the governance of ECAHO and that there would be no contact with the judges for day 2 this was in order.

We again spoke to the Chairman of the Shows and Events committee yesterday afternoon and the position was reconfirmed

As yet we have received no formal written notice of this complaint nor has anyone contacted me as the Show Secretary even though our schedules have been available for some 3 months.

We would like to state that error if any is of the Committee not the individual concerned.

We hope this is a case of dark mutterings rather than a real desire to damage the show or the reputation of the individual concerned and just wish that any objection had been raised when the potential complainants had received their schedules rather than 5 days before the show

Yvonne


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CINDERS
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Posted - 02 Jun 2009 :  4:30:26 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add CINDERS to your friends list Send CINDERS a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Further to previous please see below answer to our enquiry to ECAHO:


Dear Yvonne,

I share the opinion of the other DCs. It is common practice that there
are ECAHO shows and non-ECAHO shows (or parts) at the same weekend. We
always emphasise that the ECAHO part must be first (if one judge is used
for both parts), to avoid any conflict with 13a. As you follow this
schedule (first ECAHO, then non-ECAHO) it is fine with our rules, as the
ECAHO show ends on Saturday evening. Whatever the judge does on Sunday,
is not of our concern. Of course, I don't know if this "set-up" brakes
any AHS Rules.

Kind regards
Gudrun

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ECAHO Office
Gudrun Waiditschka
Entenstrasse 20
D-73765 Neuhausen
Germany
Ph.: 0049/(0)7158/67141
fax: 0049/(0)7158/65152
e-mail: g.waiditschka@ecaho.org
www.ecaho.org

Hopefully the matter is now closed albeit it has cast a pall over the show for myself and the other organisers making us reconsider whether there is a future for HoCoN with us at the helm

Yvonne

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M Robson
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Posted - 02 Jun 2009 :  5:29:11 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add M Robson to your friends list Send M Robson a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Some people have far to much time on their hands.

www.marley-arabians.co.uk
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rafabreeze
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Posted - 02 Jun 2009 :  9:11:55 PM  Show Profile  Click to see rafabreeze's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add rafabreeze to your friends list Send rafabreeze a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You just cant beleive some people can you?

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alethea
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Posted - 03 Jun 2009 :  2:00:22 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add alethea to your friends list Send alethea a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes you're right some people must have too much time on their hands, i wish i did!!!!
I dont see why there would be a problem with an inhand judge competing in the ridden the following day?
Alethea
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Theo
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Posted - 04 Jun 2009 :  10:34:36 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Theo to your friends list Send Theo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would'nt have any problems with that... besides all work and no play...?!

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Roseanne
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Posted - 05 Jun 2009 :  1:54:39 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Roseanne to your friends list Send Roseanne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Don't be despondent Yvonne. I'm sure everyone's going to have a great weekend showing thanks to your efforts on their behalf.
There will always be disputes about judging but the Arab world is a small one and the experts are needed to judge, advise, encourage, promote and to produce!
Good luck everyone!

Roseanne
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lottieherts
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Posted - 05 Jun 2009 :  6:09:40 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lottieherts to your friends list Send lottieherts a Private Message  Reply with Quote
There really is no pleasing some people! They would be quick enough to moan if there was no Hocon show!
I think you, along with the rest of the Hocon committee have done a wonderful job in producing a fantastic show year after year. It is not an easy task by any means.
I very much look forward to this weekends show.


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alethea
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Posted - 07 Jun 2009 :  1:20:07 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add alethea to your friends list Send alethea a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think the show worked really well yesterday having the classes indoors. Many thanks to Yvonne and the rest of the committee for a great show
Alethea
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jaybird
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Posted - 07 Jun 2009 :  9:13:02 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaybird to your friends list Send jaybird a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi

Just out of interest why is an 'issue' allowed in the first place, surely the HoCon committee can see that there will be 'rumblings' and in best practice avoid the situation!! or perhaps it's 'acting within the rules' hummm!


Beryl
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CINDERS
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England
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Posted - 08 Jun 2009 :  12:36:57 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add CINDERS to your friends list Send CINDERS a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Beryl

Maybe we are naive but no we did not see that there would be rumblings and still do not see where an "issue" arose. We did question whether this was within both AHS and ECAHO rules and having had this confirmed went ahead.

There are always rumblings about judges thus if we were to take note of all of these we would never get the show off the ground in the first place.

We would point out that the "issue" was raised by a very small section of our exhibitors so we are not the only naive people in the world

Yvonne
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Elainem
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Posted - 09 Jun 2009 :  5:35:38 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Elainem to your friends list Send Elainem a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Several people have brought this issue to my notice. The In-hand Judge did enter for the ridden classes on the understanding that as the classes were on separate days then it was classed as two individual shows.
When it was realised that as there was only one schedule the show was one show run over two days, the entries were withdrawn. Unfortunately the catalogue had already gone to print, so although they were in the catalogue they did not come forward on the Sunday.

Elaine

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