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Edgevale
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Posted - 10 Jul 2016 :  10:51:36 PM  Show Profile  Send Edgevale an AOL message Bookmark this topic Add Edgevale to your friends list Send Edgevale a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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The Mail reported that 31 horses where removed alive and either 6 or 7 where in various stages of decay
(EYE WITNESS REPORTS SUGGEST MORE LIKE 15)

THE LOST/MISSING/DEAD/RE-HOMED/LOANED WITH DETAILS/RETURNED TO THE PEELS.........

I'LL LET YOU DO THE MATHS AT THE END OF THIS POST


(Underneath some of the horse details I have update what 'Taragun' has added, this is in brackets and bold type)



1. AUTUMN DANCER 2 - Harry/Harrison horse (1996)
Cedar Breeze X Prince Of Darkness
16.2 hh Bay TB

Evented with E. Peel March 2010 to April 2011, 24 events entered. Spirir13 said she saw this horse in the 'rescue centre'
MISSING (SOLD in 2012)
Autumn Dancer 2 -Harry/Harrison horse (1996) in 2010



2 VLACQ TINWE - SPARKY
by Shah Shadow
13.2hh, Dun Arab(50%) x Welsh

Rescued !! by the RSPCA on the 21st March 2013...Shot by Adrian Cooper Wilson (a Horse whisper/Rieki healer) on the orders of RSPCA on the 21st March 2013...
The vet report on Sparky was , bright alert and responsive, unshod and needed trimming.
Sparky partnered Evie for many years apparently restoring her confidence after a nasty fall
This is how to re pay the kindness
RIP dear little thing, hope you all met up on rainbow bridge and are having a ball altogether
His name was read out in court and spirit13 claimed to see him in the'rescue centre'
DEAD (SHOT BY RSCA 2013)

Vlacq Tinwe - Sparky in the lime light


Vlacq Tinwe - Sparky March 2013


3. AMIRA OBEYD (1994) - Amira
Mare by Gold Crystal X Ocalina

Returned after a COURT battle and public dispute, bred at least 1 foal for them
RETURNED to previous owner. (RETURNED TO PREVIOUS OWNER)



4. TEMPLARS MISS ALLIANCE (2003)
Centyfield Nico X Willow Annabell (CB)
Bay mare
MISSING
(RETURNED to peel's - COCO)



5.TEMPLARS ORCHESTRAL PEARL (2000) Harley
Templars Magic Pearl (Mouse) X Imad
99% Crabbet

Evie evented him from 2009 to 2011 entered for 20 events
Peel also alleged that he was the victim of a professional trainers abuse.
A broken foot in 2004.
She also said he had had chronic liver failure.
His name was read out in court and Lisa Smith and Spirit13 both said they saw him in the 'rescue centre'
RETURNED TO PEEL (RETURNED to the peel's)
Templars Orchestral Pearl - Harley (2000) in 2011


Harley at Myerscough College early 2013 just weeks before peel got busted




Clitheroe farmer fined after 67 dead sheep discovered at farm

FINED: Farmer Stephen Peel
FINED: Farmer Stephen Peel
30 Oct 2008 / Emma Cruces, Education reporter

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A PRIZE winning farmer has been fined £300 for leaving 67 sheep carcasses strewn on a section of his land.

The grizzly discovery of the bodies in various stages of decay, was made by police officers in February, after concerned ramblers spotted the dead sheep from footpaths.

Stephen Peel, 54, of Brookhouse Green Farm, Clitheroe, pleaded guilty after being prosecuted under trading standards laws aimed at preventing the spread of disease.

Defending, John Houldsworth, told Hyndburn Magistrates that a ‘catalogue of disasters’ had prevented his client from discovering the sheep earlier.


He told the court a recent rise in prices meant the farm was operating at a loss, without any hired help.

He added a severe illness had incapacitated the farmer over the Christmas period, just before his daughter’s health suffered a blow.

The 13-year-old had woken up one day unable to move one side of her body.

While she was at hospital undergoing tests for a suspected brain tumour, Mr Houldsworth said farm tasks had naturally suffered.

He added: “Last but not least, Mr Peel’s quad bike had broken down and he was not able to check on all animals as usual.

"He was unaware of any problems with the flock, who would have usually spent the winter outside, without additional care.”

He said the cause of the deaths was unknown, but a second flock had been unaffected.

The court heard the farmer had won prizes at the Royal Lancashire Show in 2006, including Breed Supreme Champion and Best Show Champion.

Mr Houldsworth added: “This is a very sad day for Mr Peel, who entered the business on leaving school.

"A catalogue of disasters beyond his control led to this unfortuante incident.”

Prosecuting, Nick McNamara said: “Not directly disposing of carcasses, sounds like a technical charge but essentially stops disease spreading to other farms and animals.”

He added that the charge can carry a maximum penalty of two years imprisonment at crown court.


Magistrates ordered Peel to pay a fine of £300 and to pay £385 court costs as well as a victim surcharge.

Chairman of the bench Geoff Knowles said: “We have listened to what has been said and the aggravating features are that 67 animals were involved.

“We have taken into account your guilty plea and the personal circumstances that surround this incident.”


6. SIRHOWY CYRUS - Obi
Maroun X Hopstone Niobe
Caspian Stallion

Bought for Evie's first birthday as a yearling
As a four year old they took him to the Caspian Nationals, and allegedly won the lead rein class even though he had only had a saddle on for the first time 5 days before the show
MISSING


7. BUBBLEGUM - Bumble (2000)
Welton Appollo X Broomhill Lady

Evie evented her in 2007 & 2008 entered for 11 events
Her name was read out in court and spirit13 said she saw her in the 'rescue centre'
HAPPA Re Homed (RE HOMED BY HAPPA)
Bubblegum - Bumble (2000)




8. MYSTICFOLD CHARMING BOY - Piers (1996)
Borderfame Prince Charming X Stainmore Rose Hip

Died in 2010 of colic
DIED (DIED OF COMPLICATIONS OF COLIC PRE 2010)
Mysticfold Charming Boy - Piers



9. TEMPLARS MAGIC PEARL 2013 foal
born in the 'rescue centre'
MISSING (MOUSE ABORTED FOAL DUE TO TRAVELLING CONDITIONS)


10. FIYAH DOMINION (1995)
Domino Jeel X Celtic Star
86.36% Crabbet
Pure Bred 14.3hh bay mare
MISSING
(SHOT BY RSCA - SHADY)


A WOMAN has gone on trial, accused of animal cruelty, after the remains of seven horses were discovered on her land.

Rachelle Peel, 56, faces 22 charges of cruelty to horses and dogs. The charges follow a visit by RSPCA inspectors and police to her property at Brookhouse Green Farm, Dale Opening the case for the RSPCA at Blackburn Magistrates’ Court, Iain O’Donnell said representatives of the Horses & Pony Protection Association attended Peel’s home address at Brookhouse Green Farm following a report of a dead horse in a field.Head, Slaidburn, and her barn in Knotts Lane, Tosside, in March 2013.There was nobody in so the officer drove back to Slaidburn to phone to request the presence of the police and a vet.

Later that day they went into a field at the farm and found the carcass of a horse.

There were a number of living horses feeding from a large bale of hay which was next to the carcass.

Shortly afterwards, the officials went into the farmhouse where there were a number of dogs.

The police officer said the house smelled so strongly of urine that his eyes were watering, and there were dog faeces all over the floor.

There were dogs tethered outside which the prosecution say were in a poor condition.

The party was joined by an RSPCA inspector. The police officer spoke to a farmer in a nearby field and as a result they went to the Knott Lane site which comprised a field and a large barn which was locked. The officer went to Brookhouse Green Farm and returned with a key.

There were two living horses in the field and what appeared to be the remains of at least two more horses.

Inside the barn there were three horses which were living among the remains of four dead and decomposed horses.

“One of the dead horses was in the same pen as the living animals,#148; said Mr O’Donnell.

A number of horses were removed immediately and more the following day.One horse became upset in transit and suffered injuries which meant it had to be put down.

Two other horses which were removed were put down in the days that followed.

RSPCA inspector Kat Hamlyn attended the sites the day after the initial discoveries and organised the removal of more horses and dogs.

The case continues.



11. LITTLE STARLIGHT - Delilah (1996)
Gunner B X Moon Charter
15.3 TB Grey mare

Was in foal when she was removed from Peel in march 2013 Evie told previous owner that she had foal a 'big strong chestnut colt' even though she was at the rescue centre at the time of giving birth
Her name was read out in court and spirit13 and Lisa Smith both said they saw her in the 'rescue centre'
RETURNED TO PEEL (RETURNED to te peel's)
Little Starlight - Delilah with her Marcus Aurelius foal in 2011



12. WILLIAM Possible a TB or TB X CB
His name was read out in court and spirit13 said she saw him in the 'rescue centre'
RETURNED TO PEEL (RETURNED To the peel's - HONEST VILLAIN)


13. SPARK PERSEPOLIS (2003)
Caspian Pony
Bay Stallion
MISSING



14. HADIDA PEARL- Haps (1989)
Silver Scimtar X Pearl of Wisdom
14.2hh Chaestnut mare
DIED February 2011
(DIED OF NATURAL CAUSES PRE 2010)
Hadida Pearl - Haps (1989) with Templars Magic Pearl - Mouse (1994)




15. SPARTAN PRINCESS - Diva (2006)
Spartacus x Stormchaser
16hh Chestnut TB mare

Bought at the sales for 'meat money' as a 3 year old with the
intention of eventing her for a couple of seasons then putting her in foal to Last Crescendo
HAPPA SHOT allegedly from colic
(SHOT BY HAPPA)

evie's eventing successes!!
From 2007 to 2014

150 events entered of which
withdrawn from 31
no show from 10
eliminated from 15
retired from 8
A from 1
Finished 67
non specified from 1
HC from 17

highest places
4th and a 7th on Feathers Mcgraw (Harry) A made horse
7th on Vladimier H (Joules) a made horse
7th on ''Templars'' Taragun (Taz)



16. TEMPLARS MALAZAAR - Malcolm (2008)
Bay (or very dark liver with black mane and tail) Purebred colt
MWA Madkour X MWA Amira Bint Obeyd

Allegedly rejected by Amira and hand reared
MISSING


17. SILVERSUN KHOOMI (2006)
Amadni X Princess Tarria
14.2 Chestnut mare
Purebred

bred by Doug and Gabi Ault at Silversun
Shot by cooper wilson on instruction of the RSPCA in April 2013
she was described as bright, alert and responsive but had rain scald and mud fever, she was just 7 years old
Her name was one read out in court and spirit13 said she saw her in the 'rescue centre'
DEAD (SHOT BY RSCA)
Silversun Khoomi (2006) as a foal in
Silversun Khoomi (2006) March 2013


18. TEMPLARS PRINCE CASPIAN - Dinky (2009)
Last Crescendo X Spark Shahrya
PBA Bay colt (50% Arab 50% Caspian)

Spirit13 claims he came into Cooper Wilsons the night all peels horses came in but not heard of since
MISSING
Templars Prince Caspian - Dinky 2009


19. TEMPLARS MILLI VANILLI - Milli (2011)
Last Crescendo X Twist Hoeves Nancy
grey PBA mare

Her name was read out in court but not heard of since and spirit13 claimed she saw her at the 'rescue centre'
Peel said the mare has a Dutch sport pony passport which she never got round to over stamping with the AHS. Her name was read out in court and spirit13 said she saw her in the 'rescue centre' and could have been the 'young, grey PBA' that Lisa Smith said she saw
MISSING(RETURNED to the peel's)
Templars Milli Vanilli - Milli in 2011



20. TARAGUN - Taz/Tarri (1992)
Shogun X Tarreta
14.2 Chestnut mare

This little mare gave her all for evie, WAHO, eventing, and glory and it seems when she was of no further use she was tossed aside. Taz was the first to be shot by Cooper on arrival at the centre having broken a leg, it beggers belief that she was such a seasoned traveller and to end her life like this is so sad. Having met Taz's breeders today my heart goes out to you both, I felt she deserved to be posted on the Nationals Crabbet day
Her name was read out in court and spirit13 said she saw her in the 'rescue centre'
DEAD (SHOT BY RSCA)
RIP little lady
A note from Libby Frost
Taragun was Taretta's first foal, by shogun, Tari stayed with us until she was about 4 then my friends Val and John bought her, Val backed her and started her jumping, we had many happy rides out over the moors from St Breward here in Cornwall, i would ride Tari and Val rode Karna her partbred, i remeber jumping Taragun too ,and she felt AMAZING, Val and john loaned Taragun to a lad in Wales and he was the one who turned her into a jumping machine, fine tuning Taragun's massive enthusiasm!! She showjumped successfully before turning her hoof to eventing. Taragun came back to Val and John , and i cant remember what happened next, maybe Val decided to reduce the herd, and my friend Lisa bought Tari, Lisa had her for a while and then sold her to the Peels, and the rest, as they say, is history... :(
Taragun - Tari 2008



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3232322/RSPCA-shoots-11-HEALTHY-horses-Charity-culled-bright-alert-responsible-animals-continued-claim-vet-stable-fees-months-deaths.html



21. TOBAGOS AMBASSADOR - Buzz (2008)
H Tabago X MB Fantasiaa
Liver Chestnut colt
Was bought by peel, unfortunately the seller (in Belgium) was made bankrupt and fortunately for Buzz he was seized by the receivers and had a lucky escape. The following year he was up for auction and peel posted on here that there could potentially be legal action taken as she had proof of purchase (that was September 2009) One hopes that she didn't actually get her hands on him and he did indeed escape
ESCAPED


22. LAST CRESCENDO - Cresh (1997)
Imad X Carillion
14.3 grey stallion

Rescued from peel by RSPCA on the 21st March 2013, shot by Cooper Wilson on RSPCA orders on the 22nd March 2013
Sire to Harley, Quizz, Pepsi, Boots, Dinky and Millie probably more
Razgold who posted on here won the Tsunami auction for Cresh but never sent the mare in the end
His name was read out in court and spirit13 said she saw him in the 'rescue centre'
DEAD (SHOT BY RSCA)
Last Crescendo - Cresh (1997)


Last Crescendo - Cresh (1997) in March 2013



23. SPARK SHAHRYA (13.05.99)
Henden Khodee X Runnymead Poppy
Bay mare Caspian Pony
MISSING

Spark Shahrya in the foreground with Dinky and Midge




14. SUNLEA DARREANA -Tara (1990)
Darjeel X Sunlea Golden Hannella
Pure bred chestnut mare 83.18% Crabbet

Dam of Sahara Sundance 1997 (by Golden Samurai) who managed to escape peels clutch's and is now in Sweeden. I'm sure Barbara will fill us in on the details of her court battle with peel. However poor Tara wasn't so lucky and is
MISSING (DIED PRE 2010)
A note From Barbara Gregory
I bought Sunlea Darreana (Tara) as a yearling from Angela. I was really looking for something a bit older but saw her advertised in Horse and Hound (we didn't have all this internet stuff in 1991), went and saw her and fell in love. She was a beautiful, bright red chestnut colour and everyone who saw her commented on how beautiful she was. I won a covering to Golden Samurai at the AHS summer show and sent her to him. She had a filly, my first ever foal. My son had come over on the Sunday and just after lunch Tara decided to have her foal so my son was there at the birth. He wanted to call her Sundance so I added the "Sahara" to it and she was Sahara Sundance aka Scarlett. She was a dark liver chestnut rather than the bright scarlet colour her mother was



25. TEMPLARS LEGZ AKIMBO - Legz (2011)
Calcutta X Spartan Princess
Bay, white blaze and near hind white sock TB colt

His name was read out in court and spirit13 and Lisa both said they saw him at the 'rescue centre'
MISSING (RETURNED to peel's)
Templars Legz Akimbo - Legz (2011)




From the Lancashire Post
Woman faces animal cruelty charges after she ‘kept living horses with carcasses’

A WOMAN has gone on trial, accused of animal cruelty, after the remains of seven horses were discovered on her land.

Rachelle Peel, 56, faces 22 charges of cruelty to horses and dogs. The charges follow a visit by RSPCA inspectors and police to her property at Brookhouse Green Farm, Dale Opening the case for the RSPCA at Blackburn Magistrates’ Court, Iain O’Donnell said representatives of the Horses & Pony Protection Association attended Peel’s home address at Brookhouse Green Farm following a report of a dead horse in a field.Head, Slaidburn, and her barn in Knotts Lane, Tosside, in March 2013.There was nobody in so the officer drove back to Slaidburn to phone to request the presence of the police and a vet.

Later that day they went into a field at the farm and found the carcass of a horse.

There were a number of living horses feeding from a large bale of hay which was next to the carcass.

Shortly afterwards, the officials went into the farmhouse where there were a number of dogs.

The police officer said the house smelled so strongly of urine that his eyes were watering, and there were dog faeces all over the floor.

There were dogs tethered outside which the prosecution say were in a poor condition.

The party was joined by an RSPCA inspector. The police officer spoke to a farmer in a nearby field and as a result they went to the Knott Lane site which comprised a field and a large barn which was locked. The officer went to Brookhouse Green Farm and returned with a key.

There were two living horses in the field and what appeared to be the remains of at least two more horses.

Inside the barn there were three horses which were living among the remains of four dead and decomposed horses.

“One of the dead horses was in the same pen as the living animals,#148; said Mr O’Donnell.

A number of horses were removed immediately and more the following day.One horse became upset in transit and suffered injuries which meant it had to be put down.

Two other horses which were removed were put down in the days that followed.

RSPCA inspector Kat Hamlyn attended the sites the day after the initial discoveries and organised the removal of more horses and dogs.

The case continues.



26. OAKTHWAITE SHAMTAR - Shammy (1998)
Al Sood X Cumbria Shamari
Bred by Oakthwaite Arabians
15.2hh black pure bred mare

Bred 2 foals for peel plus was allegedly put to Prince of Darkness in 2010. Was bought for evie's 9th birthday present
Shammy won county level in hand with evie
MISSING (DEAD BODY IN 2013 UNKNOWN CAUSE POSSIBLY SYCAMORE POISON)
Oakthwaite Shamtar - Shammy(1998) and Midge(2009)

Oakthwaite Shamtar - Shammy(1998)



27. BRADNEY ANNA - Anna (?)
11.2hh chestnut mare
Welsh Section A

Apparently she had two names one for afiliated show jumping and one for WHP. In 2006 she was 18 plus so in 2013 she would have been 25 plus, if it's the same Anna she was shot by cooper wilson on the 26th of March 2013 5 days after going into the 'rescue centre', spirit13 claims she saw her in there also her name was read out in court during the trial. RSPCA inspector said she was 'doing ok' but 'grumpy temperament'
DEAD (SHOT BY RSCA)
Bradney Anna - Anna




28. TWIST HOEVES NANCY - Nancy (1993)
Kookhuster Fulkert X Brukels Marabella
14.2hh chestnut/roan PBA (welsh X Arab)
Dutch Bred

Bought for evies 13th birthday as an 'Eventing school mistress'a Dutch sport pony. Dam of Templars Milli Vanilli who is by Last Crescendo
Nancy was shot in April 2013 by cooper wilson on orders of the RSPCA
Vet report was 'bright, alert, responsive, rain scald and mud fever'
Her name was read out in court at the trial and spirit13 said she saw her at the 'rescue centre'
DEAD (SHOT BY RSCA)
Twist Hooves Nancy - Nancy (1993)in 2008



29. TEMPLARS MYSTIC SHADOW - Midge (01.05.09)
Mysticfold Charming Boy X Oakthwaite Shamtar
Bay PBA filly CB x Arab

Could also be 'Templars Enigma' - Midge (2009)
same sire, dam and year, or maybe the year could be wrong on one of them ?? Although there are picture's of both on AL, one has no white other than a crescent shape star and the other has a star and both hinds have socks?
Was shot on arrival at the 'rescue centre' on the 21st March 2013, by cooper wilson, at the age of 4, when the vet report said ' Hard to handle and a cracked hoof which needs a trim' Her name was read out in court at the trial, and spirt13 said she saw her at the 'rescue centre, and Lisa Smith said she saw 2 CB or CB x's
DEAD


30. ??????????? - Shady (????)
Name was read out in court at the trial, spririt13 said she saw him/her in the 'rescue centre'. vet report said 'Bright alert and responsive, with rain scald and over grown feet
Could this be Templars mystic shadow ?? and Midge be Templars Enigma??. Either way both dead Shady was shot at the 'rescue centre in April 2013, by cooper wilson under orders of the RSCA (it's not a spelling mistake, I have decided to drop the 'prevention')
DEAD (SHOT BY RSCA - Fiya Dominion)



http://www.pressawards.org.uk/modules/entries/images/entries-30150829-01877.pdf



31. Templars Crie de Coeur - Treacle (2000)
Mysticfold Charming Boy X Je t'Adore
CB x Arab

Ironically, the Cambridge dictionary translation for her name is
'an urgent and strongly felt request for help from someone in a very bad situation''
MISSING (SHOT BY RSCA - Midge) (This was amended in her post to''ETA: Midge - yes she was Shammy's daughter. ''


32. ?????? - Rita
Grey mare

Her name was read out in court at the trial, spirit13 said she saw her in the 'rescue centre'
cooper wilson shot her 22nd March 2013, vet report 'bright alert and responsive, farrier needs to tend hooves'

DEAD (SHOT BY RSCA - ARRIETA)


33. EDGEVALE AGAINST ALL ODD'S - Pip (2005) (I Breed this boy)
Djammal X Lady of the lamp (Miners lamp)
16.1 Anglo Arab, Bay gelding

He was called Against all Odds as he was the only foal to survive from six that year because of EHV
22.09.08 peels come to see Pip
she rang to say they wanted him but couldn't afford to pay for him all at once so would I take the money in 3 instalments, having discussed it it with all involved, my mum included it was agreed that they were lovely kind genuine people (Having sat in my mum's house for ages drinking tea and chatting all about evies wonderful success) yes I would, she also said she wanted a American Paint horse filly that I had for sale, but again couldn't afford to pay for her until they had paid for Pip. The upshot was that I let them (stupidly) take both horses with one payment for Pip when they collected them
18.10.08 peel took Pip and Justsy (in a massive posh lorry)
having to constantly beg for Pip's money and not a hint of Justy's money after a year, and after lots of unanswered phone call's and emails I sent an email saying that i was coming to get Justy.. I was told in no uncertain terms that I was NOT allowed on the property and if I wanted to collect her I would have to send a transporter and that they would meet the lorry up the road in a garage!
I have contracts and emails which I will put on here to prove the above
03.12.09 which Justy was collected. She was taken straight to a professional trainer and I immediately had a phone call from her telling me what a state she was in
I REPORTED PEEL TO THE RSCA in December 2009 expressing my concern for Pip and any other horses that they had
Pip was shot by cooper wilson in the 'rescue centre' on the 26th June 2013 even though the RSCA inspector said 'he's doing OK'
His name was read out in court at the trial and spirit13 said she saw him in the 'rescue centre'
DEAD (SHOT BY RSCA)
Edgevale Against All Odds - Pip (2005) Wessex group Arab show 2006



34. HERON DE LA FORGE - Heron (1995)
Prince I'Gor X Isa
16.2hh Bay French Anglo Arab gelding

evie evented him from 2009 to 2010, 23 events entered.
cooper wilson shot him at the 'rescue centre' on the 26th March 2013
RSCP inspector said he was 'doing ok' after vet examination
His name was read out in court at the trial, spirit13 said she saw him at the 'rescue centre'
peel said 'he was a world class eventing horse who has represented France and Italy and competed at 3*events, qualified for Badminton and come 2nd at the world cup championships at Barroca.
He competed at Milton Keynes with evie in 2009.
2011 he had a deep flexor tendon injury
DEAD (SHOT BY RSCA)



35. ????? - Breeze ????
RSCA Had her shot by copper wilson at the 'rescue centre' the day after she arrived, 22nd March 2013. spirit13 also said she saw her there, his/her name was read out in court at the trial
Vet report 'Bright, alert & responsive, rain scald
DEAD (SHOT BY RSCA)


Ring any bells folks!
http://crabbet.com/templars-stud-lancashire/

Templars Stud – Lancashire
Templars Stud – Lancashire
UK and Ireland SUMMER 2000 STUD TOUR
By Georgia Cheer
Regrettably, I was unable to view Rachelle Newnham and Keith Barnes horses at Templars Stud as a foal had been ill and it was feared that I might possibly tread a germ onto another farm so it was decided for me not to visit. However, Rachelle had sent me this list of horses as of last summer 2000 and pedigrees which I have posted on the site.,

Note the date!!





36. PHAARAOH - George/Gorjus George (2006)
Azaari X Pjatakova
16hh Pure Bred chestnut gelding

Another one that she raved and raved about blood lines and how fantastic he was on AL
In March 2013, at the time that this all kicked off peel was actually trying to buy another horse, a PBA off of the same breeders fortunately this didn't happen, but the mere fact that she was trying when all her horses where dying around her, (remember she all ready had 15 DEAD horses at home
HAPPA put him to sleep with neurological problems?
name read out in court and spirit13 said she saw him in the 'rescue centre'
DEAD (SHOT BY HAPPA)


37. TEMPLARS MAGIC PEARL - Mouse (1994)
Achims Silver Magic X Hadida Pearl
!4.2hh chestnut pure bred mare
100% Crabbet

According to cooper wilson, peel DIDN'T WANT HER (she had collapsed fetlocks) so she arranged to have her destroyed
Bred at least 4 foal's Harley, Shrimp, Molly, and one that was born in the 'rescue centre'
Her name was read out in court at the trial, spirit13 said she saw her as did Lisa Smith
DEAD (RETURNED to peel's)



38. DOWNLAND I'M HELLO DOLLY - Dolly (2008)
Romarnic Ranger X Holme Grove Infini
17/17.2hh Black part bred Arab x Trakkaner mare

This poor soul was identified in court as one of the rotting bodies. peel had allegedly claimed she had been stolen from them, and post trial is still allegedly claiming she has been stolen and trying to get a passport for her (June 2016)
DEAD? STOLEN? MISSING?

(MISSIG)


A note from Nicola Nash
'I sold Dowland I'm hello dolly to the peels.
She had been bred by a friend and I had bought her back as a yearling to run on for my daughter to do BD.

Rachelle convinced me to sell her to her for EVie to event and as she was going to be very tall (over 17hh) and they sold me the fantastic home she would have.

She didn't have enough movement to be a top flight dressage horse but more than enough to be a top class eventer.

She was a beautiful very mature black filly by Romarnic Ranger x Holme Grove Infini who was trakehner.

I was so excited about the prospect of her coming out under saddle and doing well.
She was from Rangers first crop so I was excited for him as well.

How bloody wrong was I!!!!''


39.TEMPLARS NIMROD - Pepsi (2006)
Last Crescendo X Templars Crie de Coeur
16.1hh bay/grey male PBA x Cleveland Bay

Bred as an Eventer for evie, his name was read out in court
RE HOMED by HAPPA (SHOT BY HAPPA)


40. GKJ SPOTTED SENSATION - Yogi/Sydney (2011)
Calimer X Batewell Indian Dawn
Spotted Stallion

Bred by Karen Dewey Musty, His name was read out in court and spirit13 claimed she saw him as did Lisa Smith
RETURNED O PEEL (RETURNED to the peel's)





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16 pure breds
6 part breds
5 Caspians
4 Cleveland Bays
1 Welsh Sec A
2 miniature shetlands (the Boys Toys or Mini Whinnies0)

3 working collies
(Meg, Red and Boo)
3 guard dogs (Rottweilers x Weimaraners)
(Grump, Bess and Wince)
7 Jack Russells (black and tan)
(Malty, Phoebe, Roly, Griss, Garfield, Mini Malt and Snicker)
3 Stable cats
(Sage, Jaff and PerPuss)
1 House Cat (Merlin)
1 Stick insect (Rodney)

Our Siamese Fighting Fish (Fluffy) died at the weekend

300 commercial sheep (most of which I can recognise as individuals)
40 pedigree Charollais sheep (all of whom I can recognise as individuals)
8 pedigree Zwartble sheep (all of whom have names that they know)
2 Limousin x cows
1 Limousin x calf
1 pedigree Limousin bull (Bully Beef)

As Stephen says - this used to be a working farm but since Evie and I moved in now everything has a name.....



41. MAGIDAA BINT MAMOONA - Binty
Gold Crystal X Mamoona
Pure bred mare

Loaned to them from MWA and returned with MWA AMIRA OBYED (No 3.)
after a lengthy battle she was forced to return her
RETURNED TO OWNER (RETURNED TO OWNER)


42. MWA MADKOUR - Muds (1998)
Alazaar X Malimar
Bay Pure bred SE Stallion

Muds was on loan to peel, along with Amira (No 2), Binty (No 41) Muds died while with peel
DIED (DIED PRE 2010)


43. INDIAN SILVER MOON - Indie (1986)
Silver Admiral X Indian Gleam
Pure bred Stallion
100% Crabbet

On loan to peel from MWA died in peels care
So both Stallions died in her care and battle for MWA to get the two mares back.
See No's 3,41.
DIED


44. CAS ROSAROMA
Shogun X Princess Di -Roma
14.2hh pure bred chestnut mare

loaned with foal (Alileo) at foot, when she was returned she was in a very sorry state, covered head to tail in rain scald and mud fever on all four, so sore she struggled to walk, which had never had before or since
RETURNED TO OWNER



45. SHAHARA SUNDANCE (1997)
Golden Samuria X Sunlea Darreanna
Dark chestnut pure bred mare

Court case reference this mare and her mother fortunately the Owner Barbar Gregory manged to save Sundance from this fate and is now safe and well in Sweden
ESCAPED


http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/news/peel-arab-horses-rescued-rspca-put-down-511288


46. HOLME PARK LENNON - Lennon (2006)
Bay
Liason 3 X Fairlyn Gemini

Lennon was with peel for 10 weeks, on loan with a view to buy. He was returned full of worms, had lost condition and had the same shoes on that he went with
RETURNED TO OWNER
(RETURNED TO OWNER)

47. JE T'ADORE - Sia (198?)
Jetsetter X Romandi
15.1hh grey pure bred mare 98.5% Crabbet]

bred by Mr and Mrs Wilson (Cambridgeshire)
Sold by Laura Pkye
was covered by MWA Madkour in 2005
Dam of T. Crie de Coeur and T. Chanson D'Amour
DIED AGED 21 with a broken leg (PTS SLEEP BROKEN LEG)


48. EDGEVALE IT'S A MISS JUSTICE -Justy (2004)
SBJ Khaki Jacket(APH) X Mad Venture(TB)
14.2 Chestnut American Paint (Breeding Stud Book)

Sold(!) to peel at the same time as Pip, did not pay for her so I had to send a transporter to get as peel wouldn't allow me on the property and the lorry had to meet them at a garage up the road, she came back in a pitiful state and I phoned RSCA and reported her. This is the agreement that she drafted .....
ESCAPED
(RETURNED TO OWNER)

SALE AGREEMENT
Seller: Buyer: Rachelle Newnham Peel Brookhouse Green Slaidburn Clitheroe Lancashire BB7 4TS
1.Horse Edgevale Against All Odds (stable name Pip)16.2 bay gelding, 3 year old Anglo Arab
2. Price and Payment£3,500 Payment to be made in 3 instalments:£1,200 (cash) Saturday 18th October 2008 £1,200 (cash, Building Society cheque or bank transfer) Friday 14th November 2008 £1,100 (cash, Building Society cheque or bank transfer) Friday 12th December 2008
3. Title and ownership Pip will remain the property of the seller until the full payment has been made. Within 7 days of full payment, his registration papers will be sent to the buyer so that transfer can be applied for with relevant registration societies (buyer will pay for transfer).
LOAN AGREEMENT
Loaner: Loanee: Rachelle Newnham Peel Brookhouse Green Slaidburn Clitheroe Lancashire BB7 4TS
1. Horse Miss Justice (stable name Justy)14.2 chestnut roan mare, 4 year old Thoroughbred x American Paint Horse
2. Loan Period Saturday 18th October 2008 until Saturday 3rd January 2009 The loan period may be extended beyond this
3. Title and ownership Title and ownership will NOT pass to the loanee and Justy will remain the property of the loaner. The loanee has stated a desire to purchase Justy for a maximum price of £4,500 and she will inform the loaner before the end of the loan period if she is in a position to proceed with the sale. If she is not in a position to proceed, the loaner will decide whether or not to extend the loan period.
4. Termination of the loan agreement Either party may terminate the loan agreement with 7 days notice. However, the loaner will not terminate the agreement in order to sell Justy to a third party during the period October 2008 to January 2009. The terminating party is responsible for transport of Justy.
Sale and Loan Agreement

GENERAL TERMS AND CONDITIONS
1. Insurance The loanee will be responsible for insuring both horses during the period October 2008 to January 2009. Pip will be insured for £3,500 and Justy will be insured for £4,500. Both horses are to be covered for veterinary expenses. (NB Insurance will commence from 20th October 2008)In the event of death, the full insurance value for Justy will be made payable to the loaner; the insurance value of Pip will be divided between the two parties depending on how much has been paid at the time of death (66% to loanee during October, 33% to loanee during November).
2. Location Both horses will be stabled at the loanee’s property. The loanee lives on site. The loanee will not move the horses off the property to another location. In the event that either horse has to be stabled overnight at the veterinary surgeon’s, the loanee will inform the loaner and provide the location and contact details. (Both horses may travel to and from training/competition venues but will always return to Brookhouse Green)
3. Rider The loanee gives assurance that the only rider who will ride the horses is her daughter, Evie Peel.
4. Welfare Both horses will receive adequate care and welfare (covering food, farrier, wormer, bedding material, flu and tetanus injections and veterinary care). In the event that veterinary attention is needed, the buyer/loanee will take immediate action to obtain this. She will immediately inform the seller/loaner of any such event.
5. Inspection The seller/loaner may visit the horses at Brookhouse Green with 48 hours notice (this is because Brookhouse Green is a working farm and plans may have to be altered to accommodate the visit). The buyer/loanee will not prevent the seller/loaner from visiting or having access to the horses.
6. Progress Updates The buyer/loanee will provide weekly updates to the seller/loaner either by phone, text or e-mail. These reports will include photographs every 2 weeks.
Signed: Seller/Loaner ..................................................... Date: .................................
Signed: Buyer/Loanee .................................................... Date: .................................Sale and Loan Agreement


On Monday, 12 January 2009, 11:38, "brookhousegreen@aol.com" <brookhousegreen@aol.com> wrote:


Hi Sue

thanks for letting me know the cheque hasn't arrived - I put it in your Christmas card so I thought you had got it.

I've cancelled the cheque and will be posting a new one this afternoon. I'm really sorry about you not getting it.

Evie is gradually getting over her flu - it knocked her socks off for several weeks. The guys are doing really well and we all seem to have settled into a nice routine. We haven't been able to do too much work over the Christmas period mainly cos it's been frozen solid everywhere. We could get out but I didn't want them to slip on the yard. Mr Feathers (Evie's other horse) refuses to come out of his stable if it's slippy - he hates not been sure under foot and once he got nervous, then I got nervous about Pip and Justy slipping and scaring themselves.

Anyway, today the rain has returned - lots and lots and lots of rain!! The good news though is that everything has defrosted so we can get them out and working again!!

Please let me know when you get the cheque and thanks again for letting me know the other hadn't arrived (good news is that it hadn't been cashed - phew!!)

Take care

lots of love

Rachelle, Stephen, Evie, Pip and Justy

xx

ps hope your pooch is feeling better xx
On Friday, 24 October 2008, 14:21, "brookhousegreen@aol.com" <brookhousegreen@aol.com> wrote:


Hi Sue

The vet came yesterday and did Pip and Justy's teeth - nothing major, just a couple of sharp baby edges!! They were both really well behaved and he loved Pip! (but then again who doesn't??).

He had a look at Justy's leg and said there isn't any problem and he's recommended leaving the bandage off for a week and then if it's still swollen, he'll have a look. It's not really puffy or massively swollen, just around the hairless bit and apparently that's normal for a bruise near a bone.

Well, they seem to have settled in. Justy bosses Pip around and pinches his food if she gets chance. He's so chilled he doesn't mind, he just pinches hers whilst she's not looking! He's formed quite a friendship with my pure Arab brood mare. She can be quite evil because she's so foal proud but she loves him back and they stand for ages grooming one another over the stable wall. It's amazing! I've never seen her so friendly to another horse. Mouse's little foal, Shrimp, thinks Pip is the bees knees and she bounces across her stable and gazes up at him. He licks and nibbles her ears and she dashes off them comes back for more.

Weekend coming and so a chance for Evie to spend more time with them both and of course she's off on half term next week. We used a general purpose saddle when she rode Justy the other night but Evie thinks it's too clumsy to feel what Justy is doing so we're going to use the jumping saddle this weekend - it's very lightweight and very, very soft leather. It's not a particularly special cut but it is more moulded so hopefully it will feel more like the little saddle Justy is used to.

I'll get some photos over the weekend if the weather permits and I'll give you another update Sunday evening.

Take care and thank you again so much - I honestly can't tell you what it means!!

Rachelle, Stephen, Evie, Justy and the main man Pip


(PS - Pip is such a cuddle bunny and he is SOOOOOOO quick to learn and so eager - can't wait till he gets going being ridden!!)

after I posted on her face book page announcing 'not to sell this woman a horse' which she promptly removed I received this email

On Thursday, 11 February 2010, 10:38, "brookhousegreen@aol.com"

Sue

1. Why post something so vulgar on a public domain? If you wanted to take issue with us why didn't you contact us directly, i.e phone? I thought we had revovered from this immature bitchiness, and if you want to criticise me over the internet, at least spell my name right.

2. If Justy was so poor and in such bad condition, why did you send us e-mails after she returned to you saying that she was happy, settled in and in good order? Were you lying then or now?

3. The farrier saw her the day before she left. She got on the transporter a happy horse with healthy feet.

4. I'm surprised that you managed to 'nurse' Justy back into a healthy 14.2 pony - you sent her to us as a 15.1, and wanted us to sell her on your behalf as a 15.1. How strange.

5. Whether we paid for her or not, we looked after your horse for 14 months with no livery, in which time she managed to seriously hurt Evie more than once while she tried to break and school your horse, me and Stephen while we tried to bath her, and the farrier, also more than once, while he attempted in vain to shoe her, something you seem to have such a complex about. She would have been shod, but I'm afraid none of us can really afford to spend a week in hospital because she was so dangerous.

6. Who actually owns this horse? Is it you, your partner or Rita Justice? Because even though we paid you for Pip, Rita Justice owned him.
You told us that the reason Justy was being sold was because you and your partner were experiencing 'problems'. I assume you have got over these troubles seeing as you have the time now to criticise the people that had your horse for over a year free of charge and tried to help you.
Whatever you want to say, it wasn't you paying for her feed and farriers bills throughout that time was it? You spoke to Stephen about the fact that she no longer fit our needs, and you wanted us to sell her on for you. Well, thankyou for that responsibility. It took us long enough to make you agree to take her back and deal with your own horse.

7. I don't think you are really in the position to talk about the payment and ownership of a horse. It took you almost a year to send us Pip's paperwork even though we had paid for him fully, on time. As you are finally so concerned, Pip is doing very well and is very happy.

From now on, I would appreciate it if you didn't contact Evie over facebook and then post something like you did. Despite Justy's attitude, she and Evie got on very well, and every time you have spoken to her over facebook she has always asked how Justy is, and every time you have said 'fine'. Do not start playing mind games with her just because you are in a bad mood and wanting some extra cash for Justy.


Rachelle.




Please note the Discrepancies between emails and sale agreement
1. Justy's height
2. Pip's cheque not arriving
3.The mare actually went with shoes all round
4. Justy was hacked out by Evie when she came to see Pip and Justy

Never got hold of her on the phone, always Stephen or evie and very little email contact, NEVER got one photo of either horse. It took a year to send Pip's paperwork as it too that long to get the money. Many times I was put off from going up to see them with excuses like'we are flooded' we are snowed in' we are at a show' !! When they collected the horses the plan was for me to follow them back, but when they came she said it was going to be late and would be better to come once they have settled in. When came back she was poor, had no shoes on and had thrush in all four feet, she had to be clipped to get the inch thick layer of **** off of her stomach. In my opinion she looked like she had been chucked in a cattle barn and ignored

This is Justy in 2010 when she was back to her normal self






49. OSO HARLEQUIN - Moo Moo (2000)
Zak x Katie
Coloured mare

evie had her at Hartbury college with her
Evented her in 2013 and 2014
MISSING (RETURNED to peel's)




http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/news/peel-arab-horses-rescued-rspca-put-down-511288?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social


50. LITTLE STARLIGHT foal - Sampson (2013)
Little Starlight was in foal when taken into the 'rescue centre' in 2013 evie informed the previous owner that she had foaled a 'big strong colt'
RETURNED TO PEEL
(RETURNED to peel's)

51. VLADIMIER H - Joules (2002)
Gran Corrado X Inkara
17.2hh bay gelding

Entered in 20 Events from 01.04.11 to 06.10.12 evie also had him at Harpbury
His name was read out in court at the trial and spirit13 and Lisa said they saw him in the 'rescue centre'
MISSING (RETURNED to peel's)



52. FEATHERS MCGRAW - Feathers (1992)
Shabb X Pollards Lady Jane
16.1hh Liver chestnut gelding

Evented by evie 2008 to 2010 entered for 16 events
MISSING (DIED OF NATURAL CAUSES)

Feathers



53. ZARIADNE - Zizi (2005)
Star of Seasons X Ziadah
Chestnut mare pure bred

Zizi was the ''apple of Stephens eye''
Sold to peel by S A Roberts
MISSING


54. STAR ASCENDANT - Scottie (2002)
Star of Seasons X Zapheli
14.2hh Chestnut pure bred stallion
86% Crabbet
MISSING



55. VLACQ TALNIQUE - Tal/Tally
Hipu Who X Vlacq Lorindol
15.2hh bay Anglo mare

Sold to the peels in 2010. Alleged one of the dead bodies found in a field and thought to have died along with one other of Sycamore poisoning
DEAD (DIED OF SYCAMORE POISONING 2013)



56. Euphorbia HT. (1991)
Pyrrus X Europejka
Grey pure bred mare
Straight Polish

1 of 4 horses that they had from Doug and Gabi Ault 1 of Which went back to them.
Died of heart attack and ashes were returned to Doug and Gabi.
DIED
A note from Doug Ault
''Of the four we were conned into letting them have we got 1 back alive, Khoomi was murdered by the RSPCA for no reason,this we know to be true, one was a heart attack victim, one inoperable cancer, we were told this by the Peels so it must be true , yeah , right !!!''


57. Alileo - leo (2006)
Ali Shahmaal X CAS Rosaroma
Purebred Arab colt, dark in colour probably now grey

peels took Alileo with his dam to wean him and returned the mare 6 weeks later in a mess
MISSING

I have had permission to post these emails from Pat

Subject: ALILEO PURE BRED ARAB

FAO RELEVANT REGISTRATION SECRETARY

ALILEO ( ALI SHAMAAL X CAS ROSAROMA) 2008 grey colt.

I received a text from Rachelle Newman of Templars Stud who bought ALILEO as a foal at foot and took him with his dam, who was later returned to me. I had not pulled his hair for DNA at the time I sent in his covering certificate duly completed with his markings, together with the full fee for registration as a COLT.

I had been physically incapacitated and unable to handle this colt at that time.

Rachelle knew she had to pull a hair sample to forward to yourselves to complete his registration.and was advised by myself to do this while he was confined in the trailer used to transport him to his new home. He is now 4 years old and this is the text I received from Rachelle Newman on 18th June 2012.

"""Pat,we've been trying to get ALILEO DNA tested. The first attempt came back as inconclusive and we have just been informed by the AHS that he has failed the second parentage test and so cannot be registered. The results are showing that ALI SHAMAAL was not his sire,. There is also a question about CAS ROSAROMA being his dam according to the DNA. both of which have failed, we won't be trying a third time. Rachelle.""""

Obviously I cannot vouch for any contamination to the samples forwarded to yourselves by Rachelle, but as a very experienced breeder I would not have expected her to make any fundamental mistake over a sample for DNA testing.

My own conclusion has to be that this was a laboratory mix up, and as such there should be free re-testing by the lab responsible.

I had to jump through hoops to get CAS ROSAROMA'S DNA, as her own parents were not DNA tested only blood typed, so there was the additional expense for me to get a vet to take blood for parentage testing and then to extract DNA from that to enter her as a brood mare.

There were no parentage issues over the registration of her first first foal JUSTA ROMA, born 2006, who was also registered as a colt, so there can be no mix up or question marks over CAS ROSAROMA.

I had sight of ALI SHAMAAL'S registration certificate that showed he was a licensed stallion and DNA tested, so it must also be a fact that there were no question marks over his DNA.

As the resulting foal was born very dark brown in the image of Ali Shamaal's own sire CAS SABUR and went grey much later, as has Alileo, and the fact that Ali Shamaal was the only stallion - let alone the only GREY stallion, in any proximity to Rosaroma at the time of covering there can be NO QUESTIONS AT ALL OVER THE PARENTAGE. The stallion owner and an AHS panel judge were the people who did the actual covering, and the stallion owner was very keen at that time to have stock on the ground by ALI SHAMAAL.

There is no reason at all to doubt the parentage, as I was invited to bring my mare to this stallion free of all charge to myself for the purpose of promoting this stallion as a sire. I am 100% confident that the parentage is correct.

I therefore think it is incumbent on the AHS to contact Rachelle Newman and offer her a free DNA test once more for ALILEO (maybe with explicit guidance on cleanliness of collection to avoid the very remote chance that previous samples have been contaminated. even though collected by a very experienced breeder)
The only conclusion that is appropriate in these circumstance is a laboratory mistake, for which there should be no additional costs involved by Rachelle Newman.

Indeed, I have paid for full registration for ALILEO as a COLT, and the AHS should be obliged to facilitate this to completion as it is a monopoly business charged with the registration of pure and part bred Arabians in the UK.

Thank you in advance for getting this issue which is not of my making brought to a satisfactory conclusion for both myself as his breeder and for the current owner Rachelle.

Pat Wallwork.


Edited by - Edgevale on 05 Sep 2016 4:32:41 PM
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Thank you, Edgevale, I look forward (if that is the right term) to following this thread.

I fear that there are many, many more. My mare was, I am sure, Long gone before all this came into the public domain. And what about foals they bred that none of us know about? I suspect if they were not deemed to be suitable to forward Evil's, sorry, Evie's, eventing career they were just left to starve in the fields; we will never know the full horror of all this as they have no shame and care nothing for the suffering they caused.

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And they still have horses!!!!!! Are they being checked?

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There was some of the horses that got returned to Evie
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Can't someone go up to there property and check which horses have been returned to them??
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Sadly not as they are on private property so that would be trespass and if it was one of us who was concerned with the case it could be construed as harassment.

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Ridiculous isn't it? I echo Barbara's comment x

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Sparky was such a gorgeous pony. I didn't even recognise him from the photo that was used in the paper until Laura mentioned his name, Vlacq Tinwe. Red's uncle. Speechless.

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MWA Amira Obeyd (1994) - Amira - Returned to previous owner
Mare by Gold Crystal X Ocalina


Returned after a COURT battle and public dispute, bred at least 1 foal for them

So what happened to the foal/foals? More to add to the humungous list of horses???

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yes Barbra her foal is on my list :-( although missing now
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I think this thread will horrify some people here who do not realise the amount of horses they dealt with and who suffered at their hands.....I repeat again, may they never ever know another happy day or sleep another night #128545; !!!!!
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would it be better if I posted each horse rather than keep editing ? What do you think
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I think each horse and pony deserves it's own post each day

This thread can be a way to remember them and acknowledge each one who suffered and those who suffered until death

I'm presuming the ''missing' ones are the carcasses found.



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I like the list as one, easier to count up if we are going to do a feature once they are all there; well, the ones we know about. It breaks my heart to think of the foals who probably died and no one even knows their names or who they were and they will not appear on the list. Just so much garbage; so very, very sad.

RIP little ones, even though we don't even know who you are it makes us so very sad to think of you. You deserved better.

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Beyond heartbreaking

I know it will have been said many times, but how could they do this...?


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there are more missing than dead bodies that where found !!
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Originally posted by Edgevale

there are more missing than dead bodies that where found !!


Did they dig on that farm? Maybe initially they buried them. How long did they live on that farm?


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No Fee they where too scared to go a diggin for fear of what they might find :-(
Think they where there from 1993/4 ish so about 20 years. OMG
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There was some old post ps from the peels stating they had lost a horse and had it buried in the filed next to the others ... if you trawl threw her old posts you will find it
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Re the horses that were returned to "Evie" - were they owned by her or loaned to her? Very interested to know the answer to this question.
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I believe the horses returned where in evie's name, but The one I breed and sold to them was in evie's Name and he was still shot so I don't know for sure. and I'm fairly sure they didn't have any horses that where on loan, the ones on loan where already dead

Edited to add loaned horses where already dead or had been returned in a sorry state

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I have only had one dealing with Peel years ago when their stallion paraded at Bramham, I saw her at a trade stand and said " I love Arabs you must be very proud today as I am to see him" she turned her back with no reply! It left me confused, I now know why! They had left some dying at home!
100% support from me in whatever can be done to ensure any of the family never have a horse or any animal in their care again!
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Spirit13
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Posted - 14 Jul 2016 :  9:09:45 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Spirit13 to your friends list Send Spirit13 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The horses that we're returned to Evie after been in the care of cooper and RSPCA they were returned in such a bloody mess as he didn't take care of them and didn't give a hoot about them , and that goes for the rest of the horses he takes in
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Ari
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Posted - 14 Jul 2016 :  9:47:00 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ari to your friends list Send Ari a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Spirit 13, I feel deeply for those that have lost and those that are suffering not knowing. I can understand a public forum is not the right place but please share any information that will help via PM to those directly involved.
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Spirit13
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Posted - 14 Jul 2016 :  10:14:41 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Spirit13 to your friends list Send Spirit13 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sorry ari , but iam just so disgusted at how theses horses were treated when they were in RSPCA care , something seriously needs doing about it
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Ari
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Posted - 14 Jul 2016 :  10:41:35 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ari to your friends list Send Ari a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No need to be sorry to me; the way to get something done is to please PM those close to this tragedy with any information that you have that can help.
All connections are in many posts all available on PM.



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