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Touchofblue
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Posted - 28 Jan 2016 :  8:41:40 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Touchofblue to your friends list Send Touchofblue a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I understand a UK based buyer is looking for endurance horses for Dubai.
Sellers do ask relevant questions if,like me, you consider that a life in the desert would not suit your horse.

Although there are signs of change for the better it is not universal with a number of catastrophic injuries already recorded this season.
http://www.horse-canada.com/cuckson-report/how-an-unsung-sheikh-has-forced-an-epiphany-in-endurance/
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Misper
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Posted - 30 Jan 2016 :  08:59:13 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Misper to your friends list Send Misper a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Please don't sell to over there. I have just been out and have seen the fall out from those horses that get hammered and discarded. It's happening on a huge scale. Please,please just don't do it.
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Elly
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Posted - 30 Jan 2016 :  1:15:19 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Elly to your friends list Send Elly a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think the person advertising is British but I believe he is based in UAE and is advertising in Australia for horses to compete in Dubai in the winter and Britain in the summer. This is interesting as at the moment the only FEI rides in England are EGB ones - does this mean there are moves afoot to reinstate Euston Park, or upgrade an EGB ride with substantial sponsorship from an unsavoury source? Could this in any way be linked to the closure of the EGB Forum?

Absolutely agree with Touchofblue & Misper - it's beyond comprehension that anyone would sell a horse to UAE knowing what their record on horse welfare is.
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sab2
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Posted - 01 Feb 2016 :  6:01:07 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sab2 to your friends list Send sab2 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I shared a video today on FB which i find so sad, the riding and lack of thought or care for their horses is shocking, but of course if they drop down dead, break down or break a leg they don,t care they just buy more. I would rather put any of mine to sleep then let them go out there, sadly still breeders over here happy to sell and send them over, shame on them.
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Goldenmane
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Posted - 01 Feb 2016 :  6:22:05 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Goldenmane to your friends list Send Goldenmane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Agree with everybody, any breeders that sell abroad know what they are doing. and I doubt it is in the interest of the horse.

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debs
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Posted - 01 Feb 2016 :  8:27:16 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add debs to your friends list Send debs a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That video was very very hard to watch....

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Callisto
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Posted - 02 Feb 2016 :  12:42:24 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Callisto to your friends list Send Callisto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
As above, please don't sell to the UAE, their record on horse welfare is appalling, although I am sure there are good owners out there as well, it is just not worth the risk of a horse ending up in the wrong hands.

Zahkira (GR Amaretto x Taffetta)
Linda
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Kharidian
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Posted - 03 Feb 2016 :  9:15:43 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kharidian to your friends list Send Kharidian a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It was a horrible video to watch.

Caryn

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aka "Roger".................................... aka "Chips"

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natntaz
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Posted - 06 Feb 2016 :  1:47:46 PM  Show Profile  Click to see natntaz's MSN Messenger address  Send natntaz a Yahoo! Message Bookmark this reply Add natntaz to your friends list Send natntaz a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Does anyone know what the name of the English person who is looking ?
If so could you PM please



Natalie Pix. Essex. Tariq ibn Radfan and Taroub
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Elly
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Posted - 06 Feb 2016 :  2:06:57 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Elly to your friends list Send Elly a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Have PM'd you
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Sahir
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Posted - 11 Feb 2016 :  6:02:17 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sahir to your friends list Send Sahir a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If anyone at all is thinking of selling their horse(s) for endurance to the ME I hope you saw the totally sickening photo on FB of a poor grey Arab with both forelegs snapped !! One of the most horrifying photos I've ever seen and two men in Arab dress standing behind the horse just looking, waiting for it to die probably as out there they rarely PTS. The expression on the horses face is one I'll never forget - heartbreaking.
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alan
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Posted - 11 Feb 2016 :  9:13:49 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add alan to your friends list Send alan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've been sharing these videos & pictures on fb. The more noise people make about the mistreatment of horses by some people over there the better & maybe people who are still selling horses there with hopefully stop. I often get enquiries for horses for sale as I breed Crabbet related sports horses. I would like to know who this person is please so that I can avoid them & make other people aware. Thank you.



www.spirit-arabians.co.uk
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Sahir
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Posted - 11 Feb 2016 :  9:37:38 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sahir to your friends list Send Sahir a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I just cannot believe they allow their horses to suffer they way the do - the beautiful Arabian horse, who loves mankind, how can they do this to them, I hope & pray the people who mistreat them are given'just desserts' - hateful people !!!!

Edited by - Sahir on 11 Feb 2016 9:40:00 PM
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Sahir
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Posted - 11 Feb 2016 :  9:38:48 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sahir to your friends list Send Sahir a Private Message  Reply with Quote
and what does EGB have to say on this matter ??????????????????????????? are they receiving sponsorship from the ME - oh yes I believe they are! Please correct me if I'm wrong EGB ??

Edited by - Sahir on 11 Feb 2016 10:40:45 PM
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Sahir
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Posted - 11 Feb 2016 :  10:37:33 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sahir to your friends list Send Sahir a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Elly - could you PM me too please, if you know the name of the English person looking on behalf of buyers in Dubai - thank you.
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Elly
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Posted - 12 Feb 2016 :  4:56:31 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Elly to your friends list Send Elly a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sahir - have PMd you.
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Nashiba
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Posted - 17 Feb 2016 :  1:01:40 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Nashiba to your friends list Send Nashiba a Private Message  Reply with Quote
can you PM me too please as i was just about to advertise a youngster for sale.
Thank you
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Elly
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Posted - 17 Feb 2016 :  7:07:25 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Elly to your friends list Send Elly a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nashiba - I've PMd you.
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Ari
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Posted - 17 Feb 2016 :  7:59:08 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ari to your friends list Send Ari a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Have followed this thread with horror at what goes on and thankfully I haven't seen pictures. I am a happy hacker with one very special Arab friend for life. Just want to give my support and gratitude to those trying to change and prevent this cruelty.
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LadyB
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Posted - 19 Feb 2016 :  7:45:17 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LadyB to your friends list Send LadyB a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I know this is a slight diversion from the topic but as far as I'm aware it is not against Islam to perform euthanasia on an animal if its sick. It is however a sin to keep an animal alive with no food or water until it dies (I would think this applies to 'turning it out' in the desert). A friend of mine recently worked in Dubai as a vet nurse and I quizzed her when she returned. I don't understand why they're not putting horses to sleep which are injured but instead allowing them to suffer even more.

Louise

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faymouse
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Posted - 25 Feb 2016 :  11:17:50 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add faymouse to your friends list Send faymouse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Please dont let your horses go there! :(
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Hullaballoo
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Posted - 26 Feb 2016 :  08:13:47 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hullaballoo to your friends list Send Hullaballoo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It is so difficult to know what we can do about this, one small action would be to sign the change.org petition to the FEI, asking for the 2016 World Endurance Championship to be removed from Dubai in the UAE. As mentioned by Touch of Blue at the start of this thread.

As of this morning the petition only required another five signatures to reach 5,000. Many people some from other disciplines and from all over the world have already signed this and left heartfelt comments:

www.change.org/p/ingmar-de-vos-president-fédération-equestre-internationale-say-no-to-2016-world-endurance-championships-in-horse-hell

Edited by - Hullaballoo on 26 Feb 2016 08:15:46 AM
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Touchofblue
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Posted - 06 Mar 2016 :  12:35:16 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Touchofblue to your friends list Send Touchofblue a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks to everyone who signed the petition, it has definitely crept very slowly recently but is now over 5000
One GB horse registered in UAE in Nov but does not appear to have been competed yet
https://data.fei.org/Horse/Detail.aspx?p=D7393926FA628390B327BE16C35A263C

Research has shown many new horses exported to UAE recently, mainly from France, Australia, Uruguay, Argentina just a few from Spain and Italy
Money talks sadly!
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barbara.gregory
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Posted - 08 Mar 2016 :  11:21:02 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add barbara.gregory to your friends list Send barbara.gregory a Private Message  Reply with Quote
And sadly people sell there just for the money with no thought or care as to what happens to the horses afterwards. May we all remember Spitters Creek Bundy even though it is painful to do so; poor, poor horse, used and abused and then tossed aside like a piece of garbage.

Please never forget him.

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FireLight
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Posted - 08 Mar 2016 :  12:57:16 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add FireLight to your friends list Send FireLight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well said Barbara but sadly I fear he won't be the last piece of rubbish cast out.

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Goldenmane
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Posted - 08 Mar 2016 :  4:47:36 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Goldenmane to your friends list Send Goldenmane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Will never forget him, Barbara, and it is painful if you are a true horse lover.

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