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Barefoot Unicorn
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Posted - 07 Mar 2015 :  2:24:56 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Barefoot Unicorn to your friends list Send Barefoot Unicorn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have just got my 5 year old Arab backed, and thankfully he is home and settled. He has had his saddle fitted by an LMitchell fitter and it feels great, no pinching, lovely and soft over his back. We had our first hack out and he was a star. Where we live is hilly, steep little stony inclines, unavoidable. I lead him out in hand and long rein to get him more confident carrying himself up and down these routes.
This is literally a 15min route up the road and back and the saddle slipped forward....too much for comfort!
I am thinking it is his action going down hill that also doesn't help with whatever his on his back, so I realise there will be a lot of getting off and on to help with this to start.
What has other peoples experience been with young horses and this problem?
Also do you think long girths make the saddle more stable. I have a
Thorowgood T8 Cob dressage and a sheepskin girth on him. I was thinking possibly having the billets made shorter?
Any advise thrown my way, very much appreciated. It has been a long time since I rode an unbalanced youngster...and I need all the help I can get!!!
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Faracat
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Posted - 07 Mar 2015 :  4:26:53 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Faracat to your friends list Send Faracat a Private Message  Reply with Quote
IME short, dressage style girths give more stability. I think that you need to get the fitter back out so that they can see what happens when he goes up and down slopes.

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garnet
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Posted - 07 Mar 2015 :  6:46:34 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add garnet to your friends list Send garnet a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Agree - best get the fitter out. You don't want an upset at this stage and he is probably changing shape as he matures and gets fitter.

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FireLight
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Posted - 07 Mar 2015 :  6:57:53 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add FireLight to your friends list Send FireLight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have a 5 year old too that had the same problem. We have a lot of hills and the saddle slipped forward. I got my saddle fitter out and he fitted my boy with a wider saddle and also he recommended an Ideal Affinity girth. My boy has a forward girth groove so the standard girth was pulling the saddle forward into the girth groove. The Affinity is one of the new style shaped girths. It was expensive but what a difference. My saddle has stayed put up and down hill and even when he has a few giddy bucks.

I agree the longer the girth the less stable the saddle. My fitter says the girth should be more to the bottom of the straps rather than the top.

Good luck

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Arachnid
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England
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Posted - 07 Mar 2015 :  7:57:55 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Arachnid to your friends list Send Arachnid a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have round 5 year old too. Saddle slipped a lot to begin with. I changed my saddle fitter first of all and that has certainly helped but I also bought a Stubben string girth. This was not bought because of slipping but because they don't seem to chafe on long rides but but the upshot is that the saddle doesn't slip nearly as much. It does help that as the work has increased of course little Marvin is a bit less round.


West Sussex
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Pasch
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Posted - 07 Mar 2015 :  9:06:57 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pasch to your friends list Send Pasch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have seen on the Stubben site a fore girth that is designed to help saddle slipping problems.Also how about tail cruppers?Armos never had a problem wearing one,must be because of the high tail carriage.Like Arachnid I also swear by string girths as they are the only ones that won't chafe so it was a bonus to discover they also prevent saddle slipping.
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Barefoot Unicorn
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England
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Posted - 08 Mar 2015 :  6:42:15 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Barefoot Unicorn to your friends list Send Barefoot Unicorn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks all... He is in an XW fit, that all seems to be good. He does have a forward groove so will try a curved/shaped girth. I did think about the string Stubben girths and would go for that option if it was a long girth, being a dressage saddle, I was thinking about the metal buckles lying right against the horses side..or is that me? People do seem to rate these, for all the right reasons.
Many thanks again.
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Etoile
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Posted - 09 Mar 2015 :  12:20:03 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Etoile to your friends list Send Etoile a Private Message  Reply with Quote
After a nightmare time trying to find a girth that didn't rub for spirit, who is wide with a very forward girth groove, we finally seem to have cracked it with a mohair girth. We ordered this one from America http://www.mossrockendurance.com/view_product.asp?category_ID=9&prod_ID=353. We looked at the stubben girth, but natural strings are supposed to be better from a rubbing point of view than synthetic, we also liked that it was shaped, and the leather under the girth buckles is very soft.

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Arachnid
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England
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Posted - 09 Mar 2015 :  12:56:24 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Arachnid to your friends list Send Arachnid a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Barefoot Unicorn
No you can't easily use a Stubben cord girth with a dressage saddle - I've tried but as you say the buckles don't have a backing. Etoile's mohair one might work though as it is leather backed?


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glo
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England
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Posted - 09 Mar 2015 :  6:17:14 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add glo to your friends list Send glo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Make sure that the girth is not elasticated.

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