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pat day
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Posted - 25 Oct 2012 :  08:45:29 AM  Show Profile  Send pat day an AOL message  Click to see pat day's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add pat day to your friends list Send pat day a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My goodness, she looks wonderful Rui.
What a difference, and how dedicated EMW are, to give such an old girl a chance. I salute them.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~TREASURES AT TEMPLEWOOD~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Rui
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Posted - 25 Oct 2012 :  5:56:46 PM  Show Profile  Visit Rui's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Rui to your friends list Send Rui a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Today's update is rather funny:

Well the blog cover tonight is Madam- aka Viuga aka Paris or simply "JHst call me Silly Bint Aswan!" Honestly I know we rarely see new faces at the yard, given we are nicely tucked away, but the poor E-on bloke who had the misfortune to be the one checking the pole in the adjoining field must have thought we had a dragon on our side of the hedge, such snorting and posturing, much prancing and airs above the ground !! sods law is because it was drizzling I left the phone and camera in the car. With the daft Arab wound up lie a clockwork mouse the troll-like shetland also decided what fun and shot off bucking and snorting too! I had right fun and games getting him collared and in and her daftness kept casting an eye to the suspicious being over yonder while guzzling down her tea and having her rug changed.
On a more serious note today I noticed that her rug had rubbed her withers a bit. I've got coloidial silver on it tonight and some CS gel with Aloe coming to clear it up fast then it's back to good old MSM cream which has kept it right for months, I think it's a combination of chaffing from the lightweight and the constant damp. We'll keep an eye on it an dif needs be get her some on AB's to clear up any possible infection though it is just 'local' and tiny.

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Posted - 25 Oct 2012 :  9:38:44 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pasch to your friends list Send Pasch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wow,you could hardly say it's the same horse!
Even her strange croup seems to be getting back to normal...definitively her energy has!
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Posted - 28 Oct 2012 :  3:16:28 PM  Show Profile  Visit Rui's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Rui to your friends list Send Rui a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No doubt EMW is doing a superb work helping Paris. They are auctioning a painting to raise money to keep Paris, so if anyone wants to have a go, please have a look here:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151110473012409&set=a.436255107408.196712.300456442408&type=1&theater

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Rui
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Posted - 28 Oct 2012 :  4:06:41 PM  Show Profile  Visit Rui's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Rui to your friends list Send Rui a Private Message  Reply with Quote
An update with photos:


Despite the damp and dismal day the tractors are out in force today, including those belonging to our neighbour at the sanctuary. They are very busy hauling in the remnants of the maize crop and have several very large tractors and harvesters on the go. They aren't dinosaurs but might as well have been. The maize field borders our bottom hedgeline and three of our paddocks and meadows adjoin. Our resident diva does not care for this disturbance on her sunday afternoon and as such refused to eat her tea preferring to ping about all wild eyes and totally insane! She is 29, must have seen combines before and tractors too..what a dizzy mare. We've left her to it, buckets in her usual place, as the need to crack on and get the work done took priority this evening. She'll either eat or she won't but think she'll be hungry by tomorrow if she doesn't anyway although she still has loads of grazing anyway.





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Posted - 29 Oct 2012 :  12:10:13 PM  Show Profile  Visit Rui's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Rui to your friends list Send Rui a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A bit more worrying update, this morning:

Paris is very jumpy today. Is it the start of the manic fireworks thing which is causing her to be so unsettled or some else? she ate her tea last night but not her chaff though guess she may have been full.. she wasn't bothered by her breakfast this morning at all, I opted to give her a simple scoop of mix to tempt her and she had a bit of that but was more interested in what was happening over the fence. I'm keeping a careful eye on her. Any sign of stopping eating is always a worry in past emaciation cases and more so when those cases are elderly horses. As we said right at the start of our involvement with this old mare her welfare is our top priority and we will not let her down, if we are starting to look at teh end then so be it.

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TanyanChewy
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Posted - 29 Oct 2012 :  1:24:26 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TanyanChewy to your friends list Send TanyanChewy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
:( I sincerely hope that she has gone off her feed purely down to the stress of the farm machinery & fireworks - she has been doing SO SO well and looks fantastic.


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Rui
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Posted - 29 Oct 2012 :  10:09:49 PM  Show Profile  Visit Rui's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Rui to your friends list Send Rui a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Seems things are back to normal:


Smashing news tonight.. our worry-some Viuga ( Paris) is back to her old self! phew! AND I now know why she was uber stressed too. Not the tractors and machinary - although they would have added to her worry - but next door playing Clay Pidgeon shooting :-( nowt can be done , it's their land fair and square and to be fair the horses do get used to it, they don't like it much, but they do get used to it. Anyway she is happy and eating ( thank god!) but just to be on the safe side a muzzled mini monster is out with her tonight too. The midges are awful this evening... but in some ways they are doing a good jb of keeping the fat ponies on the move.
All our lame jobs are now mended including small Willow but he brought himself in tonight and so has 'gone to bed' on *bread and water* rations - another night in won't do any damage.
The Viuga Portrait auction is live now - see further down this page - our current opening bid stands. If you want a small piece of Arab history you should be bidding on this lovely water colour by the great artist Carolyn Kokta.
Congratulations to Clair G on your auction win too. On it's way to you now.
Look out tomorrow in our Christmas shop for a special limited edition listing on the pony keyrings!! woohoooo wait till you see these beauties! grateful thanks to @Caroline King for her skills and marketing too :-)
Grateful humongous thanks this evening to volunteer Pete for helping hands this morning and to Trustee ann for her cover of the oldies meadows this afternoon. We're a heck of a good team!
I'll sleep easier tonight knowing our oldies are all well again.



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Posted - 29 Oct 2012 :  11:15:30 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Callisto to your friends list Send Callisto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I was a bit worried about the post implying that the end might be nigh when she has been doing so well, it seemed a bit premature to me just because something had suddenly stressed her - so glad that they have worked out what the problem is, and things are getting back to normal.

Zahkira (GR Amaretto x Taffetta)
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Pasch
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Posted - 30 Oct 2012 :  5:28:35 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pasch to your friends list Send Pasch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Same here
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Rui
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Posted - 05 Nov 2012 :  9:57:40 PM  Show Profile  Visit Rui's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Rui to your friends list Send Rui a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A bit of another worrisome update, today:

At the sanctuary we've been busy too. Most grateful thanks go to Trustees ann and Bryan for poo picking on Sunday along with us - though we were there early and late - so we passed like ships in the dark...but Bryan ought to be knighted for his continual dedication to old Paris. whatever the weather he takes her late feed out and watches over her while she munches her way through it. He's really stepped right up to the mark with this old lady. I've posted new pictures of her takne today in her own album. News is a bit disappointing I'm afraid. she has slipped off 8kilo in the last week. We've tweaked her feed a bit and will tape her again next monday and weekly there after. My guess is she has burned it off re: stress from the shooting and the goings on with the many tractors, plus there have been quite a few fireworks going off for some days now. I wouldn't be shocked if she lost a little more after tonight as I expect it will be Somme like for afew hours, but it is concerning me and if she doesn't gain back or worse continues to drop weight then we won't go lower than 425 kilo with her. That is our agreed time to call things a day. She won't slip back to terrible emacation again in our care. It's not up for discussion. and at that point we will ackowledge that she has simply reached her 'time'
She's bright and grazing and eating her feeds so it may be doom and gloom again for nothing but 8 kilo is a fairly chunky loss. The adjustment to her needs includes swapping her daytime dry fibre bucket for wet fibre but she's a monkey for only eating her 'proper' feed then going off and forgetting about her top up fibre. If she won't eat what is offered despite changing it for easier or tastier or whatever then we're on a road to nowhere. The one thing we can't do is make her young again and not only bodies age but minds do too, sometimes (and we've had this with other horses in past) they simply forget about eating - a kind of dementia. WE'll see how things go over the next few weeks ahead.

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Posted - 05 Nov 2012 :  9:59:28 PM  Show Profile  Visit Rui's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Rui to your friends list Send Rui a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Some pictures from today, as well:












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Pasch
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Posted - 06 Nov 2012 :  10:13:11 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pasch to your friends list Send Pasch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I was kind of expecting more stress due to fireworks...hope it's only that...
My boy only nibbles at food when he's full-eating a lot-close to being fat.He just isn't hungry!I am surprised that just a few weeks ago 430 kg was considered satisfying,and now under the 425 mark they will call it a day.She seems in good shape to me,and 8 kg doesn't seem such a big loss if she's been running around and moving a lot.Plus she's so well rugged her body doesn't even feel the need to keep fat on-feel hungry,I suppose.
I know a couple of elderly horses (about Paris' age) they are kept free to roam in a vast area,have ad lib hay and evening feed (normal feed not for old horses) rugged when it's cold and stabled at night.They've been thin for years,not emaciated but thinner than Paris is.They are happy,going around all day and enjoying the odd canter and scratches from guests.Vet regularly visits and finds them healthy for their age.
Myself I don't know many very old people who are fat or even plump.In fact,most doctors will tell you that with age it's better to stay on the thin side-kinder on joints,heart,digestive system,you name it.
Of course,I wouldn't want to see Paris become the walking bag of bones she was before.But I wouldn't set 425 kg as a deadline either.
Just my opinion of course...I'll go to hide now...
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Kharidian
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Posted - 06 Nov 2012 :  11:20:32 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kharidian to your friends list Send Kharidian a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I for one trust EMW to do the right thing for Paris - whatever that is.

Caryn

Kharidian (Prince Sadik x Khiri)........ Alkara Cassino (H Tobago x Rose Aboud)
aka "Roger".................................... aka "Chips"

The first image is from an original painting by Pat Shorto.

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Posted - 06 Nov 2012 :  12:01:03 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Touchofblue to your friends list Send Touchofblue a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Kharidian

I for one trust EMW to do the right thing for Paris - whatever that is.

Caryn


I totally agree, EMW will only call it a day if Paris is suffering.
As long as she is happy and settles down again after the stupid fireworks and does not continue to drop weight.
Every winter is a challenge with the oldies and Paris is in a very experienced home where she will lack for nothing.
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ali bali
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Posted - 06 Nov 2012 :  1:53:01 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ali bali to your friends list Send ali bali a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well said Caryn!
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Posted - 06 Nov 2012 :  10:40:22 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Goldenmane to your friends list Send Goldenmane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Kharidian

I for one trust EMW to do the right thing for Paris - whatever that is.

Caryn

Me too, I also would rather an aged horse had a lovely summer of grass and not struggle through a tough winter.

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Pasch
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Posted - 07 Nov 2012 :  6:50:05 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pasch to your friends list Send Pasch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Goldenmane,in case I was misunderstood,I don't want her to struggle either,just it seems to me that to put a 425 Kg deadline is,well,too much of a deadline?She could be feeling well and healthy at 424 Kg.Again,I have seen horses (and people!)that were well,active and healthy even if a bit underweight.
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Posted - 11 Nov 2012 :  09:29:22 AM  Show Profile  Visit Rui's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Rui to your friends list Send Rui a Private Message  Reply with Quote
An update from yesterday:


Paris is back in her nighty and top coat this evening as the temp is dropping fast as skies remain clear overhead. There are a few local bonfires tonight - and no doubt pesky fireworks too - so we hope the old girl can cope now she's supported by her calmer supplement which is seeing her so laid back she's almost horizontal! Small willow is also on Mag but for other reasons and I have to say he's also got a vaguely 'stoned' look about him too :-)


And some pics:


Paris & Larry












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Pauline
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What a change in Paris. It just shows you what good, correct food and good care can do.

She is looking a 100%. Well done to all at EMWS

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Posted - 14 Nov 2012 :  6:21:51 PM  Show Profile  Visit Rui's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Rui to your friends list Send Rui a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A quick update, from today:

(...) Paris is well, eating and quiet enough. She had naked day today and thoroughly enjoyed herself and actually looks alright weightwise... her bony old flank is not as bad as I thought.

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JESSIEMAE
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Posted - 14 Nov 2012 :  6:47:16 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add JESSIEMAE to your friends list Send JESSIEMAE a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thank you Rui, fantastic update..! My goodness, Paris is so pretty, and what I like about her so much is she hasn't got that 'extreme' dish, and yet was a beautifully bred mare..! Bring back the 29 years ago xx

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Thank you, EMW, for caring for this truly beautiful mare.
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Posted - 24 Nov 2012 :  11:23:22 AM  Show Profile  Visit Rui's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Rui to your friends list Send Rui a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A quick update and some new photos. Photo descriptions are EMW's.


Paris has a swish new rug - another one!! this time we've gone for a full neck under duvet jobby which is warm and cosy and won't cause issues with her high withers - which we've solved by the way... to coin a phrase simples! a liberal coating of @Botanica Botanica Natural Herbal Skin Cream on a square of gamgee tissue over her withers and her rugs on top and she's comy and protected and no slips of the pad or anything.. fabby. She's alright despite this awful weather. A bit stiff in her joints and a bit achey but getting plenty of NAF omega oil and her 'prop' of Magic too.



Paris November 24th enjoying her haylage net.. mud mud and more mud..


there is stone where she stands but the constant rain has battered all our hard standing. November 24th she's well wrapped for the next lot of rain ahead..


Paris looking on as volunteer amy brings in a new bale of straw to make sure the shelter is warm and snug. Paris is very unsure about being shut in so she can make her own choice - she usually toughs it out and stays outside.


This old lady loves her haylage. Nov 24th in Herefordshire mud and rain and with more to come :-( she does have a lot of fairly dry clean grazing on gently sloping pasture it just doesn't look like it...

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Posted - 24 Nov 2012 :  2:57:12 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Goldenmane to your friends list Send Goldenmane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thank you Rui. She does look snug and well looked after.


Edited by - Goldenmane on 24 Nov 2012 2:58:06 PM
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