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brockle
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Posted - 21 Aug 2011 :  2:13:00 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add brockle to your friends list Send brockle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
We only bucket feed at night when they come in so 5yr old ate most of his bute mixed feed last night. This morning we used a syringe with bute mixed in milk with added sugar which he has had before perfectly happily. Today his eyes rolled up, his neck arched and he fell over on his side. Seemed dazed or shocked for a minute and then struggled to his feet. He always likes to be fussed over so in 5 minutes after a bit of a cuddle and lots of reassurance he went off to the field with the others as they were all due to go out.
He has seemed perfectly normal as we checked on him and we'll be back down there again later this afternoon.
The syringe is positioned as for wormer and there was no coughing or choking - nothing was different to other times except the worrying reaction.
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Kharidian
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Posted - 21 Aug 2011 :  4:03:14 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kharidian to your friends list Send Kharidian a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ooh, what a worry. If it happened immediately I'd be surprised if it was a reaction to the Bute. Perhaps he "fainted"/lack of blood to the brain if his head was significantly raised when administering? I have heard of horses to whom this has happened if they'd previously had a nasty bang to the poll.

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Ari
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Posted - 21 Aug 2011 :  4:03:43 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ari to your friends list Send Ari a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Never had a problem with bute other than they wont eat it, never had a bad reaction. Any update on my earlier reply to the efudex query you had.
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georgiauk
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Posted - 21 Aug 2011 :  9:00:22 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add georgiauk to your friends list Send georgiauk a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think as a precaution I'd mention it to the vet, has he had his heart checked recently.... also don't think it's related to the bute. Hope he remains ok for you 8)
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debs
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Posted - 21 Aug 2011 :  9:56:20 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add debs to your friends list Send debs a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A friend of ours had a little Welsh that used to go down every time her head was raised over a certain height... was low bp!

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brockle
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Posted - 22 Aug 2011 :  2:21:37 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add brockle to your friends list Send brockle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
OH is 5'10 and has horse head resting on shoulder to administer anything syringed - last sarcoid cream is Tues so will ask them to listen to heart then but they are thorough and have never mentioned bp problems. Very thought provoking reply, just can't bear to think of another horse problem at the moment!!!
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brockle
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Posted - 22 Aug 2011 :  2:48:41 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add brockle to your friends list Send brockle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I did phone the vet but of course it was the emergency line so not either of the vets who had seen him last week. She said to be safe give it to him in a bucket feed and contact them if it happened again. Not much else she could say really and we'll talk about it with usual vet Tues.
We didn't give him any more bute today and he is ok but quiet. Will ring to see if we should dose him before we go tomorrow so it is in his system before the application takes effect - if it starts to hurt in the trailer going home we might have problems.
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brockle
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Posted - 22 Aug 2011 :  2:54:10 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add brockle to your friends list Send brockle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ari, so sorry have replied to you on Efudex question, thanks for your help.
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Ari
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Posted - 24 Aug 2011 :  8:32:36 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ari to your friends list Send Ari a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hope all went well today at the vet
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arretonarabians
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Posted - 16 Nov 2011 :  4:12:26 PM  Show Profile  Visit arretonarabians's Homepage  Click to see arretonarabians's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add arretonarabians to your friends list Send arretonarabians a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Please please be careful with Bute.

I know many people hand it out like panadol to their horses. We have always avoided using it. Earlier this year we were unfourtunate to have sick horses and for the symptoms my clydie X (riding mare ) was prescribed bute. we followed vet instructions ( Long long story as to the illness and the reasons why we decided to administer Bute) But sadly my mare was one of the small percentage of horses who react to Bute.

She suffered from Bute Toxicity and bled out internally.

Apparently it is quite a common reaction in Minis.

Please be aware that Bute is not 'safe' horses do have reactions.

I know you are under vet advice I am just getting the word out there as our personal experience was devestating.
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NatH
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Posted - 16 Nov 2011 :  4:52:24 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NatH to your friends list Send NatH a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This does not sound like a reaction to bute to me more of a fainting fit.

Hope it doesn't happen again xx

Natalie
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