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abcoboy
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Posted - 17 Aug 2010 :  1:21:56 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add abcoboy to your friends list Send abcoboy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Does anyone know anything about frog re-growth? How long it takes to re-harden when part had been removed (by vet)? Horsey went every so slightly lame - called the vet who thinks the frog has been sliced by a sharp stone/object and he had to cut a small section off - apparently the 'tender' part had been exposed and she's now on stable rest for a few weeks to keep it dry/clean until it recovers ... any advice? After a few days of being in what looked like 'infection' came out but the vet said this was normal, not to poultice and keep dry ... seems to be hardening (slowly) but it's now a whitish/cream colour .... this normal?

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Pasha
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Posted - 17 Aug 2010 :  3:10:15 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pasha to your friends list Send Pasha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What colour are his hooves? Shesky's hooves are white and his frogs are white too after the Farrier has trimmed them (go black with dirt in between trims lol). They even look transluscent sometimes!

Not sure how long it will take your boys frogs to heal... but I doubt it will take long as Shesky's grow like wildfire and shred naturally (have big bits hanging off at the moment) and he is trimmed every 4-5 weels!

You could always feed him some biotin or a foot suppleement to help them re-grow?

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abcoboy
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Posted - 17 Aug 2010 :  3:20:59 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add abcoboy to your friends list Send abcoboy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hoof is black … will try and get a pic tonight … he said it will take ages to re-grow and she’s only a tad sore due to ‘tender bits’ being exposed … he said she could go out if I can guarantee it will be clean/dry at all times (which is impossible) so she’s in with turnout whilst Im there to keep an eye on her!

Will dig around cupboards see what I can find in terms of supplements … sure Ive got some somewhere …

Did shesky have the same thing? x

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Pasha
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Posted - 17 Aug 2010 :  4:24:08 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pasha to your friends list Send Pasha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No sorry, I was just making general 'frog' observations as noone else had replies and I thought they might help a bit! His seem to grow like mad though and I don't feed him any specific supplements for feet... although his balancer has biotin in it!

Have you thought about putting a boot on it to protect it so that she can go out?


Edited by - Pasha on 17 Aug 2010 4:24:47 PM
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kate b
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Posted - 17 Aug 2010 :  7:13:18 PM  Show Profile  Send kate b an AOL message Bookmark this reply Add kate b to your friends list Send kate b a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Had advice from new farrier this week re soft/thin soles - he recomends iodine and sugar solution, the iodine does the hardening up and the sugar helps it stick. I guess it might help the frog also....


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Quarabian
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Posted - 17 Aug 2010 :  7:49:40 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Quarabian to your friends list Send Quarabian a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Don't know much about frogs except they are supposed to be soft and elastic. Are you sure you want them hard? I might be on the wrong track though. However I just want to mention your bunny on the sig pics. What a little stunner.
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Mrs Vlacq
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Posted - 17 Aug 2010 :  8:25:17 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mrs Vlacq to your friends list Send Mrs Vlacq a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Surprised at that one Kate as Iodine and Sugar = sugardine solution which is a very effective drawing poultice. It's often used on resected laminitic feet. Meths is good for hardening skin, so I guess it would help frogs?
Freshly trimmed frog is usually ivory in colour and should toughen up fairly quickly. Hope all goes well


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abcoboy
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Posted - 18 Aug 2010 :  12:37:47 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add abcoboy to your friends list Send abcoboy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Aw thanks for the replies!!

Well the frog is ivory colour ... so fingers crossed she will be ok. She's not a happy bunny staying in - that's for sure! That half hr each day is well spent!

Sorry, didnt mean rock hard .... just meant layer to toughen up ...

Aw thanks Quarabian .... she's massive now though hehe ...

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Kharidian
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Posted - 18 Aug 2010 :  6:08:28 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kharidian to your friends list Send Kharidian a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If the frog is ivory-colour then it won't take long - it's really not had much cut away. I was shocked at the amount of blood and spongy/stringy mess when the Vet cut away frog after Roger had a really bad penetration (I found him with this in his hoof )


but I only kept him in for 4 weeks (I rode around the roads in the fourth week, the only reason he wasn't turned out is that the ground was so wet, as it was March/April). The frog grew back really quickly.

Caryn

Kharidian (Prince Sadik x Khiri)........ Alkara Cassino (H Tobago x Rose Aboud)
aka "Roger".................................... aka "Chips"

The first image is from an original painting by Pat Shorto.

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abcoboy
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Posted - 19 Aug 2010 :  08:07:33 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add abcoboy to your friends list Send abcoboy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks again so much for your replies ... it is ivory but one part seems to be 'weeping' and gunk coming out (not now but a few days ago) so i suspected an abscess and poulticed ... rang vet and he didnt seem to think there was one (gunk only came out after 2 days the vet had been) ... she still is slightly uncomfortable when walking but only if you're looking - do you think there's more to come out or just because the frog is still tender ... will try and upload pic from this morning x

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abcoboy
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Posted - 19 Aug 2010 :  08:27:24 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add abcoboy to your friends list Send abcoboy a Private Message  Reply with Quote

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abcoboy
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Posted - 19 Aug 2010 :  08:28:26 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add abcoboy to your friends list Send abcoboy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Kharidian

If the frog is ivory-colour then it won't take long - it's really not had much cut away. I was shocked at the amount of blood and spongy/stringy mess when the Vet cut away frog after Roger had a really bad penetration (I found him with this in his hoof )


but I only kept him in for 4 weeks (I rode around the roads in the fourth week, the only reason he wasn't turned out is that the ground was so wet, as it was March/April). The frog grew back really quickly.

Caryn


Wow ... what a huge nail .... poor little thing - was yours infected?

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Kharidian
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Posted - 19 Aug 2010 :  2:07:46 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kharidian to your friends list Send Kharidian a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Abcoboy (I always read your name as "Alcoboy", sorry)!
Yes, he developed an infection; after I removed the metal the frog bled and I immediately tubbed and then poulticed his hoof (this was on a Saturday), re-did it again on Sunday when he was still sound but by Monday he was swollen to the hock and hopping lame, so the Vet came out....antibiotics/Bute etc and severe paring back of the frog which was repeated the following day.

Caryn

Kharidian (Prince Sadik x Khiri)........ Alkara Cassino (H Tobago x Rose Aboud)
aka "Roger".................................... aka "Chips"

The first image is from an original painting by Pat Shorto.

South-East Essex
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abcoboy
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Posted - 19 Aug 2010 :  3:04:43 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add abcoboy to your friends list Send abcoboy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Haha ... Im actually called Vicky - never got round to changing my name !!!!

Aw ... poor thing! Did you manae to look at pic? Any thoughts??

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