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nn
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Posted - 11 Jun 2010 : 07:45:43 AM
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Hi Sabine
Our anglos have to be able to hold there own in open competition.
As Babs said the judges in the hack and riding horse classes are not keen on the horses who show to much arab.
We all aim to breed stock that will go on a do a job of some sort.
So as well as showing we have a lot of good dressage, jumping, eventing, racing and endurance anglos.
nicky
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Hazel Cornes
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 11 Jun 2010 : 09:50:41 AM
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Antsar Law has a new home where he is competing in showing & dressage and when he left us I measured him at home at 158cms. Antsar Fredero is retired(grass munching)and we found that he had a fabulous pop over a fence and my son had training with James Davenport. Unfortunately I didn't take any pics as I was so beside myself over the size of fences!
Here's another couple photos of El Prendero - shame he's no longer with us.
The jumping part bred (Antsar Mohican)which we bred is only 148cms. Quite a few of Strinesdale Matador's jump but as he was 148cms I think most will be too small for you M Robson. A couple of pics of Antsar Mohican with his owner.
photo by Fotograffs
photo by Equinational
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alethea
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Posted - 11 Jun 2010 : 10:11:42 AM
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Beautiful horses you are very lucky
Alethea Aristotle Arabians
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BabsR
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England
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Posted - 11 Jun 2010 : 10:41:39 AM
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Anglos (regardless of size) can and do Jump....it is not about size, but about the boldness,athleticism, untiring stamina and willingness to learn, of the breed
Below, Lynlane Lyrical (AASB) 156cm sired by our BNC Premium Performance stallion.....Champion Ridden Show Horse, Area Dressage Champion, Show Jumper, Eventer, very bold across country, including water and really enjoys his fences as can be seen by his ears forward relaxed expression
Cant beat a good Anglo whatever your choice of ridden discipline...but then, I am biased, well I would be, having bred these amazing all round Show/Competition Horses the whole of my life
Lynlane Lyrical is 50% Arab 50% TB and is Anglo Arab to Anglo Arab Bred
Also, one of great fame, Tamarillo, Burghley winner and only 158cm. His rider Fox-Pitt being 6`2" tall
Proof....it is not all about being a big horse, to be able to perform.
Babs www.SunrayAngloArabianStud.co.uk |
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templars
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England
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Posted - 11 Jun 2010 : 12:23:19 PM
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Just to clarify - Tam is a part bred and he's actually over 16.2 - our trainer groomed for him and used to exercise him whilst he was at William's. Apparently he's quite tall but rides a lot smaller.
Here is another part bred - French Anglo Arabe Heron de la Forge with Evie - a 16.3 and a 14 year old girl
Then they got better ..
but the best thing about horses with Arabian breeding is that they LOVE to form a bond
I was so sad to read in Horse and Hound this week that one of the top riders said that she felt for the first time that that she had bonded with her horse at Bramham. Wow, she's been missing out on so much love.
PS Did you read the wonderful news about the Anglo mare Fachoudette (one of the county's top eventers) having a foal - a filly by Jaguar Mail. Cool! |
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BabsR
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Posted - 11 Jun 2010 : 12:36:48 PM
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Stand corrected Templars.... A number of articles published, state he is a mere 15.2hh and is Anglo. Do in fact know he was a Part Bred Arab (as I myself have reminded that fact, to those who have quoted him as Anglo) but we can`t take it away from him regarding his amazing ability!!
The blend of Arab and TB, properly trained, can almost always result in a very capable and brave competition horse, but the breed do not tolerate fools lightly.......still my preferred breed
Babs www.SunrayAngloArabianStud.co.uk
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Hazel Cornes
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Posted - 11 Jun 2010 : 1:42:31 PM
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Wonderful photos - any more actions shots? |
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nn
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England
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Posted - 11 Jun 2010 : 4:05:41 PM
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This is flights of Fancy of Pinnerwood.She was British National champion a number of times and then went on to be a multi champion large riding horse.She was not a good broodmare and only ever carried one foal to term. A blast from the past and a very thin me!!!! [
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Mrs Vlacq
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Posted - 11 Jun 2010 : 7:39:09 PM
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We too are Anglo breeders since.... well, a long long time!! Our old TB produced lots of lovely first cross AA for us and other competition studs - they ended up dressage and SJ here and in Europe but so many of them became 'Warmbloods' once in the hands of trainers The 75% arab 25% TB make superb Riding Horses and endurance horses for taller riders. Temperament is key so the TB part must have good movement and a happy disposition. We await our AA foal (due today!) for this year - by a mostly Crabbet arab stallion and out of an AA mare. We bred the mare, and the stallion, and the mare's dam too.
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BabsR
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Posted - 11 Jun 2010 : 7:54:07 PM
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Yes indeed Mrs Vlacq.....you have bred many superb Anglos over the years, who have gone on to make excellent competition horses. There is certainly a niche for 75% Arab/25% Thoroughbred Anglos in the Endurance discipline, especially for the taller riders and Anglos have make their mark in top class Endurance competitions...but unfortunately a stronger Arab look, not really favoured by Judges in Hack and Riding horse classes generally
Such a pity that when they leave our shores for the continent, Anglos become known as "warmbloods" and lose their identity
Babs www.SunrayAngloArabianStud.co.uk
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Sabine K
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Posted - 11 Jun 2010 : 8:12:54 PM
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My mare broke her leg in 2007 during competing in cross country.
Thank good we have a vet station - which is specialisted on broken horse legs - only 15 km`s away.
It got srewed and healed perfectly. I we did not get any constrictions concerning further competitions.
But, since then I`d rather keeping her away from cross country events.
I got a lot of warnings concerning breeding an 75/25 anglo.
But I do not know if there will be much classes offered in the future anyway and in ridding classes we have more and more "veteran classes" coming up.
"veteran classes" for older (avarage) horse riders - who do not wanna compete against young talented kids! |
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weirton
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Posted - 11 Jun 2010 : 8:13:30 PM
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Just an opinion but I think too much emphasis is put on percentages. Offspring do not always look or perform as the percentages say they should and the best method is to use your eye and the knowledge of your stock's prepotency to produce the type you want.
The type in TB stock is too variable to go by percentage alone as they can range from little flat race weeds to Aintree chasers.
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Sabine K
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Posted - 11 Jun 2010 : 8:22:53 PM
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Got some more:
I guess, I am the only German who loves the british browband style
see.....
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Sabine K
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Posted - 19 Jun 2010 : 4:15:04 PM
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Maybe we should have done these pics before the german footballteam has lost.........
.....well, still keeping fingers crossed
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Maramoo
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Spangle
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Posted - 20 Jun 2010 : 08:03:46 AM
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What a superbly interesting thread! Captured me for ages reading through it!
Sabine, your mare and foal are gorgeous- your foal is definately something very very special- will you be keeping her? (no I am not in the market for buying- just interested!).
I have a 4 year old Filly who is 50% Arab/ 25% TB/ 25% Highland Pony- not quite an anglo. I have posted a video of her practising for her first dressage outing in a separate post.
Love all the rest of the Anglos you all posted about too- I think more Eventers could gain alot from trying them as their mounts- I don't mean just at the higher levels- so many would see it advertised as an Anglo and not even consider- they just don't realise what they are missing!
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Mrs Vlacq
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Posted - 20 Jun 2010 : 10:54:47 AM
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Lovely foal Sabine - ours is much younger, but I'll take some pics today if I can to show you all. |
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Sabine K
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Posted - 20 Jun 2010 : 1:47:05 PM
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@ Mrs Vlacq
How much is "much younger" ?
My filly is only 8 weeks coming friday !
I am looking forward seeing your 2010 born foal
@ Spangle
Well, my original plan was keeping the foal (as long as it is not getting a stallion - as I do not wanna keep a stallion and geldings are still be seen as "second class arabs" here in Germany), and leasing the mare.
Unfortunatly even the warmblood breeders prefer the anglo in their papers on 4. or 5. generation - but not further in the front.
The all scream for "blood blood blood in warmblood horses" - but they prefer the TB´s here.
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Mrs Vlacq
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Posted - 20 Jun 2010 : 7:11:15 PM
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Well, here is our jolly AA filly - at 6 and 8 days. She is a real live wire and mum has to keep up with her! She has so much 'lift' in front in her paces that she already looks like a little ridden horse, and then she really lowers down and bites in for a full gallop. She can jump too.... she leapt over a visiting student today while he lay in the field! (Won't look good on the risk assessment for university!). Very pleased with her
And this is her yearling sister (right, with her best pal by same sire)
Last year's Reserve Supreme British National Ridden Champion was an Anglo - first cross - 5yrs stallion. He also jumps so watch this space!
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Hazel Cornes
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BabsR
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Posted - 23 Jun 2010 : 12:50:11 PM
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Flying the Flag in open classes...Louise Murphy`s homebred 3yr old Anglo gelding SPELLSBURY SIGNIFICANCE
This boy with outstanding paces and super temperament is out of Louis`s Premium Mare Wrenthorpe Ballerina (AASB) is sired by our stallion Saristocrat (AASB) and is destined to be Louis`s future Hack/Cherif contender. He has been lightly shown and is a consistent winner at Major shows, including Championships in Anglo and Hack Breed classes
His future looks bright. Well done Louise on your home production and `James` will certainly be one to watch out for in the ridden classes at a later date
Babs www.SunrayAngloArabianStud.co.uk
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Sabine K
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Posted - 27 Jun 2010 : 4:26:27 PM
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@ Mrs Vlacq
What a great little girl !
Please keep me updated with her in the future.
Can not remember seeing a chestnut at an anglo class here in Germany the last couple of years.
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Sabine K
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Posted - 27 Jun 2010 : 4:34:20 PM
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@ BabsR
SPELLSBURY SIGNIFICANCE is a Horse would love to have under Saddle as well.
A couple of years ago, the hunter classes have started as well here in germany, but not many people entering.
We had a class offered at our riding competion but it got cancelled due of lack interest.
So, keep us updated how his way under saddle will continue!
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Mrs Vlacq
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Posted - 27 Jun 2010 : 7:46:56 PM
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No Sabine, she will be offered for sale to some lucky person to make Riding Horse / Large Hack / Dressage / Endurance.... and best friend That is her second chestnut and the stallion is bay too! |
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Sabine K
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Posted - 27 Jun 2010 : 8:07:09 PM
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I`ll keep on fingers crossed that someone feels blessed with her one day!
Yesterday I have been to a warmblood-foal-show which was also a qualification for the national foal championchips.
Was a bit of a challange for me as even the organiser couldn`t tell me, if I am allowed to enter or not!
After several try`s of getting a permission I finally got it - so off we went.
I had all these warnings in my mind from arab people and warmblood people warning me not to go as I should expect to be cut in peaces.
Well, I can say - I did not !
She scored 7 and 8 all the time
She did not get the qualification to go to the finals - but I was happy with my scores!
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