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BobandEna
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Posted - 25 Jun 2007 :  9:47:16 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BobandEna to your friends list Send BobandEna a Private Message
Just for you Sis










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BobandEna
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Posted - 25 Jun 2007 :  10:39:30 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BobandEna to your friends list Send BobandEna a Private Message
Sis Is this the Paramount you are looking for



SAHR*5571 AHSB*22045
Chestnut
Gender Mare
Sire PARMANT
AHSB*17237 Chestnut 1987
Dam PROTOCOL
AHSB*19330 Bay 1986
Dam's Sire PRONONCE
AHSB*17240 Bay 1979
Studbook
Reference
Volume 17 Page 348

Breeder MR & MRS H A S BANCROFT




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BobandEna
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Posted - 25 Jun 2007 :  10:53:34 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BobandEna to your friends list Send BobandEna a Private Message
Just to remind newcomers, of the horses that are on this trophy

ARAB HORSE SOCIETY CHALLENGE CUP
FOR THE BEST PUJRE BRED RIDDEN STALLION
PRESENTED BY:
THE HON MRS C.E. EMMETT

1961 MRS A J SELLAR�S BLUE HALO
1962 MRS A J SELLAR�S BLUE HALO
1963 MRS A J SELLAR�S BLUE HALO
1964 MRS A J SELLAR�S BLUE HALO
1965 MR J ALEXANDER�S ARGOS 1966 MRS S BRADFORD�S GOLD MOIDORE
1967 MRS A M ROBERT�S COUNT AMBRINO
1968 MISS P M LINDSAY GERWAZY
1969 MISS P M LINDSAY GERWAZY
1970 MISS M C POLLARD CRANLEIGH RED SHADOW
1971 MISS E K JONES RADFAN
1972 MR & MRS MASSEY RABALAIN 1973 MRS E SOAMES RODANIEH RUSHIME
1974 MRS M RANDLE RADFAN 1975 MR & MRS TYZACK ZAJAL
1976 MR & MRS CROSSWELL DADIA
1977 MR & MRS CROSSWELL DADIA
1978 MR & MRS CROSSWELL DADIA
1979 MR & MRS NELSON CLARION
1980 MR & MRS J HOUGHTON MANEX 1981 MISS D ROBINSON GRAND DUKE
1982 MRS J M GOODING GRAND DUKE
1983 MRS J M GOODING GRAND DUKE
1984 MR & MRS J HOUGHTON MANEX
1985 N & E H JACKSON SILVER SATYR
1986 N & E H JACKSON SILVER SATYR
1987 MR & MRS J HOUGHTON VAIN HUSSAR
1988 MRS J M OPPE GOLDEN FLAMBEAU
1989 MR & MRS J C CROWE KAHTANI
1990 TUSON ARABIANS BEN HURR
1991 MR T O AGGAD NAASIR
1992 MR T O AGGAD NAASIR
1993 MR & MRS BANCROFT PARAMOUNT
1994 MR T O AGGAD HADEIR
1995 MRS S LEA ABU DHAHI 1996 MAJOR & MRS HEDLEY MAXIM IBN RIALLA
1997 ELISABETH LADY MOYNE SISYRINCHIUM
1998 H.H. SHEIKH ABDULLAH
BIN KHALIFA AL THANI SWORD OF THE SKY
1999 MR & MRS TITTERINGTON NAZDROMAL
2000 DIANA WHITTOME IMAD
2004 TIFFANI McCARTHY PHA SILVERN RISALM
2005 MRS JUDITH EVANS TOMAN

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Mike
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Posted - 25 Jun 2007 :  11:22:41 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mike to your friends list Send Mike a Private Message
Hi Bob,

I remember watching Grand Duke ....... though I was still in my pram for the first of Blue Halo's victories, I did (once out of said pram) own a great grand daughter of his

Mike
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 26 Jun 2007 :  8:54:43 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rozy Rider to your friends list Send Rozy Rider a Private Message
BLUE HALO in 1967,with Mrs Sellar on board, taken by Ronnie Booth & posted for Ronnie...enjoy. Winner for 1961,1962,1963 & 1964.
and Hadeir. (for Ronnie).

And Congratulations to Jak......Argos Under Saddle..must be the only one in the World....Sue

Sue

Edited by - Rozy Rider on 26 Jun 2007 10:47:56 PM
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Mike
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Posted - 26 Jun 2007 :  11:58:20 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mike to your friends list Send Mike a Private Message
Many Thanks, much appreciated!

Mike
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 27 Jun 2007 :  12:06:38 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rozy Rider to your friends list Send Rozy Rider a Private Message
IMAD

Sue

Edited by - Rozy Rider on 28 Jun 2007 9:23:27 PM
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Jingo
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Posted - 27 Jun 2007 :  08:42:13 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jingo to your friends list Send Jingo a Private Message
Many thanks to you all for helping out with the photos - who are we missing now?

Jude
www.auchmillanarabians.org.uk

photos:Anthony Reynolds,Sweet,Deano,Real Time Imaging
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 27 Jun 2007 :  10:22:46 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rozy Rider to your friends list Send Rozy Rider a Private Message
Sort them out, lets see who we are missing now...Bob & Ena, could you put a marker at the ones we've found....please Sue

Sue

Edited by - Rozy Rider on 27 Jun 2007 10:23:59 AM
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emma
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Posted - 28 Jun 2007 :  4:09:08 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add emma to your friends list Send emma a Private Message
Just looking through these super photos i began to think that perhaps these horses from years ago appear to be dare i say it more athletic than many we see now.

Yes they appear more substantial than some nowadays but then that is the overall trend with the in hand too. Evolution of the breed whether its for the best or not i shall leave for a different discussion.

When i say the horses of the past look more athletic im not saying that our modern day ones are cripples but perhaps we are a bit more precious with them now. Im not sure quite how to explain it, i dont want to get shot down in flames! I have noticed that some of the ridden horses we see now and particularly this year where classes have been huge have horses that go sweetly but just dont seem to cover the ground and many dont gallop. Perhaps its a sign of the times there have been many articles about valuable dressage horses not being hacked or turned out incase of injury, but i find it a vital part of education and musculoskeletal development.

Im very lucky my ridden stallion does everything, im quite conscious of not being too precious about him. A top producer heard that id been jumping him and told me i shouldnt i should be careful about his legs, i replied that its ok as he jumps over them he doesnt crash into the jumps with his legs! Infact last year he did a sponsored ride and 3 days later was ridden champ at the Midland AHS show. I just get the impression that increasingly due to money, time, increased competitiveness and other pressures has made amny forget just how versatille and hardy our Arabs are.

What are your thoughts? Is there a difference in those previuos ridden horses to those today?

Emma

Emma
Fulmer House Arabians
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jak812
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Posted - 28 Jun 2007 :  5:19:45 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jak812 to your friends list Send jak812 a Private Message
Two more for the collection..

Nazdromal:



Abu Dhahi:

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Jingo
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Posted - 30 Jun 2007 :  9:05:38 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jingo to your friends list Send Jingo a Private Message
jak812 thank you so much for adding Nazdromal and Abu Dhahi (we had added Abu earlier - but thread was removed)

Emma - yep I agree perhaps some of the horses today are a bit "wrapped in cotton wool" - we try to give our boy a "natural" life when he's home BUT "hands up" we do turn him out in boots etc - just in case!!!! Once he has finished his ridden career we intend to do lots of other things with him - hubbie has a desire to drive him!!!! Poor Tom - sure he'll enjoy it Maybe I could persuade Ann to put the side saddle on him - or Frankie could take him to do long distance

Afterall he is only a baby at the mo

Just one little concern about Paramount BOB - she is listed as a MARE so tell me how is she on the Best Ridden Stallion trophy.

Ron has pointed out that Andrew Tonge's Kazmierek was Best Ridden Stallion and Overall Ridden Champion - we must make sure, if this is correct, the trophy must be altered.

Does anyone have pics of Kaz (sure I could get some from Andrew) and details of the awards that year.

Jude
www.auchmillanarabians.org.uk

photos:Anthony Reynolds,Sweet,Deano,Real Time Imaging
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georgiauk
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Posted - 30 Jun 2007 :  10:47:43 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add georgiauk to your friends list Send georgiauk a Private Message
There's a nice pic of Kaz in AHS News winter 99 no 93 page 54 - if anyone can scan and post it here
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tamila
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Posted - 01 Jul 2007 :  9:28:07 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tamila to your friends list Send tamila a Private Message
Thank you for the picture of Abu Dhahi. I can hardly believe it ts so long ago that I travelled with him in the trailer when he left his breeder, Tina Cooke, to go to Sue Lea's. He really was a beautiful boy and died so tragicaly when so young.

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Jingo
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Posted - 01 Jul 2007 :  11:08:31 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jingo to your friends list Send Jingo a Private Message
Here is a photo of Andrew Tonge's wonderful stallion Kazmierek

Jude
www.auchmillanarabians.org.uk

photos:Anthony Reynolds,Sweet,Deano,Real Time Imaging
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 02 Jul 2007 :  7:45:10 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rozy Rider to your friends list Send Rozy Rider a Private Message
Just found another of Abub Dhahi in hand in 1988 (AHS No.70) (1st Royal,1st Royal Windsor,2nd South of England).and Golden Flambeau, in colour. taken in 1987.


Sue

Edited by - Rozy Rider on 02 Jul 2007 8:06:53 PM
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Tahir
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Posted - 10 Jul 2007 :  12:56:34 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tahir to your friends list Send Tahir a Private Message
So lovely to see pics of these wonderful stallions!!! It is also so nice for me to see pics of Sword - he lived next door to me for a while, he was awesome. Also fantastic to see a pic of Radfan on page 1, so many people own relatives of this amazing horse, I believe he was BNC in-hand as well as under saddle. I was very honoured to attend his 21st birthday party and have a pic of that day to share:



Carla, xx.
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 18 Jul 2007 :  10:25:29 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rozy Rider to your friends list Send Rozy Rider a Private Message
So who removed the posting & pictures and why and can we get them all back on....who are we missing....

Sue
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Jingo
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Posted - 19 Jul 2007 :  4:06:49 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jingo to your friends list Send Jingo a Private Message
Sue for some reason it slipped off the page and unfortunately we couldn't find a page 2

Jude
www.auchmillanarabians.org.uk

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Dot
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Posted - 27 Jul 2007 :  10:18:41 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dot to your friends list Send Dot a Private Message
slightly off topic I know but in response to somebodies comment about wrapping horse in cotton wool. You are oh so right it annoys the he** out of me to see horses turned out in +10 degrees C weather with thick winter rugs and boots on all round.

Research in the US and elsewhere has shown that booting horses increases the temperature of a horses leg by up to 10 degrees minimum and that the heat stress can in fact contribute to tendon injuries as tendons are not good at dissipating heat and are designed to run at cooler temperature.

I myself at home did a small scale experiment on leg temperature and boot wearing, the temperature differences were very surprising.

So if you really care about your horse only boot it if it interferes with itself when ridden. Under normal circumstances unclipped free roaming horses given access to shelter and ad lib hay/ haylage are perfectly capable of regulating there body temperature with out rugs. I love horses but what we all seem to forget is that the only reason they are not eaten or milked like cows/ sheep and pigs is because they proved to be more useful around the farm for plowing cart pulling etc. how many cows have you seen wearing rugs lately?

Yes you could argue cows are ruminants and horses are not and as such cows have a big fermenting vat that produces a lot of heat. But so do horses it is their cecum, hence the best way to keep your horse warm is lots of fibre.

I shall now get off my hoby horse.

Dot.

Dot
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Sadika
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Posted - 07 Aug 2007 :  11:11:57 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sadika to your friends list Send Sadika a Private Message
I don't think this has been acknowledged in the above but sadly two BNCh Ridden stallions were pts this year - Nazdromal and Silver Satyr. RIP.

Marilyn


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LadyB
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Posted - 08 Aug 2007 :  4:06:20 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LadyB to your friends list Send LadyB a Private Message
Thanks for the pic of Argos under saddle.. He looks lovely. He is my mare's great grandfather on stallion side... Really nice to see a pic of him..

Louise

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Jingo
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Posted - 08 Aug 2007 :  9:54:45 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jingo to your friends list Send Jingo a Private Message
Oh Marilyn - what sad news about Nazdromal and Silver Satyr - how old were they?

Jude
www.auchmillanarabians.org.uk

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georgiauk
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Posted - 08 Aug 2007 :  10:41:22 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add georgiauk to your friends list Send georgiauk a Private Message
Sats was 27 and Naz must only have been 14 or 15

Edited by - georgiauk on 08 Aug 2007 10:43:09 PM
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Arabian Girl
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Posted - 09 Aug 2007 :  12:18:33 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Arabian Girl to your friends list Send Arabian Girl a Private Message
Slightly off topic here and i apologise, my horse was out of Khaymakam (Brian Blakes, i think) i can remember a super picture of Khaymakam on the back page of AHS news roundabout 1985..has anybody got any good pics of this stallion, i borrowed that particular ahs news to someone and never got it back..thanks in advance



Posting from Billinge Wigan

Edited by - Arabian Girl on 12 Aug 2007 11:29:14 PM
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