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Mike
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Posted - 12 Nov 2005 :  2:31:02 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mike to your friends list Send Mike a Private Message
That's one to you Lynda! Though Chariot's dam was the grey mare Parradis (Madar X Pagoda) He was bred in the States and exported to Morocco as a five year old.

Q3 Is in a similar vein,

Which horse was named after a ship?

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Posted - 12 Nov 2005 :  5:22:23 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LYNDILOU to your friends list Send LYNDILOU a Private Message
There is a horse named Victory, by Asil Noctune x Sur lee , but I doubt that is the one your thinking of !


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Posted - 12 Nov 2005 :  5:24:59 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mike to your friends list Send Mike a Private Message
No, unfortunately not!

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Posted - 12 Nov 2005 :  6:51:05 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LYNDILOU to your friends list Send LYNDILOU a Private Message
TITANIC by kubres bay x lady valentine? thats your lot for tonight I am giving a dinner party !


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Posted - 12 Nov 2005 :  6:54:09 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mike to your friends list Send Mike a Private Message
Not that one either, enjoy your dinner party!

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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 13 Nov 2005 :  07:32:05 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LYNDILOU to your friends list Send LYNDILOU a Private Message
Well Mike, you said which horse is named after a ship, I have named two! and still its not the right answer! perhaps there are loads? any clues


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Edited by - LYNDILOU on 13 Nov 2005 07:34:45 AM
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Mike
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Posted - 13 Nov 2005 :  11:29:32 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mike to your friends list Send Mike a Private Message
Maybe the question should have been "Which horse was named after the ship that it travelled on?" sorry, the question as asked was too ambiguous! Much has been written about the horse over the years, but the ship's only claim to fame is its connection with the horse.

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Posted - 13 Nov 2005 :  6:37:47 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LYNDILOU to your friends list Send LYNDILOU a Private Message
Cass ole? he travelled in a ship in the film!!


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Posted - 13 Nov 2005 :  7:14:24 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LYNDILOU to your friends list Send LYNDILOU a Private Message
Argos? ( clutching at straws now !


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Mike
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Posted - 13 Nov 2005 :  10:07:23 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mike to your friends list Send Mike a Private Message
Its an odd sort of name for a horse(or a ship) and begins with an "E"

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Posted - 14 Nov 2005 :  08:19:33 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LYNDILOU to your friends list Send LYNDILOU a Private Message
Europa?( still clutching but my hubby says there is a ship by this name!) and there is a horse by this name


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Posted - 14 Nov 2005 :  09:06:46 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mike to your friends list Send Mike a Private Message
Perhaps a clue will help?

http://www.saudiaramcoworld.com/issue/196204/aerial.eye..htm

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Posted - 14 Nov 2005 :  09:17:26 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Anfi to your friends list Send Anfi a Private Message
Hi Mike,


Mr. Herbermann, the owner and president of the American Export Lines imported the mare, Leila II on his ship Exochorda. As there was a horse named Leila already registered in the Arabian Horse Club and it is against the regulations of the club to add a surtitle to a name once registered, the mare was named after the steamer and was so registered.' Noted Arabian authority Carl Raswan wrote in his Raswan Index, that Prince Kemal El Dine (breeder of Henry Babson's import *Bint Serra I) 'used to call *Exochorda the female counter-part of Mesaoud


source: http://hometown.aol.com/naradaarab/Exochorda.htm


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Mike
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Posted - 14 Nov 2005 :  09:57:25 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mike to your friends list Send Mike a Private Message
Well done Anne, that's one to you! This next one is easier!

Q4 The great Polish stallion Skowronek stood at both Courthouse and Crabbet, but who imported him into the UK?

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Posted - 14 Nov 2005 :  10:25:14 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LYNDILOU to your friends list Send LYNDILOU a Private Message
mr Walter Winans


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Mike
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Posted - 14 Nov 2005 :  6:26:54 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mike to your friends list Send Mike a Private Message
Thats another one to you Lynda!

Q5 Is another Crabbet related question .... Name the stallion which Lady Wentworth bought from Tatersall's in 1923

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Posted - 14 Nov 2005 :  6:47:30 PM  Show Profile  Click to see joanna_piana's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add joanna_piana to your friends list Send joanna_piana a Private Message
Was it Mirage? It's the only one I can see for 1923 altho Tattersalls isn't mentioned.


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Posted - 14 Nov 2005 :  6:58:21 PM  Show Profile  Send Pashon2001 an AOL message Bookmark this reply Add Pashon2001 to your friends list Send Pashon2001 a Private Message
it was Mirage, he went through tattersalls


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Posted - 14 Nov 2005 :  6:59:57 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mike to your friends list Send Mike a Private Message
Yes it was Mirage!

From the 1924 Crabbet Stud Catalogue:

"Mirage. Lady Wentworth has also at Crabbet a very fine white stallion imported by King Faisal of Irak from the Dendnasha tribe, to whom he paid £500 for the horse through General Haddad Pasha, who identified the horse and his history in 1922. He is a Kehilan Ajuz of the Denednasha nejd strain, but will not be incorporated in the Crabbet Stud until King Faisal's signature has been obtained."

From The Crabbet Arabian Stud its history and influence< by Archer, Pearson and Covey: p. 108

"Mirage. A Seglawi Jedran Dalia. White stallion bred by the Anazeh tribe. Exact date of birth unknown....The Crabbet records indicate it was about 1916. Brought by King Faisal of Irak to France and presented to the Italian Ambassador Signor de Martino and brought by him to England. Bought at Tattersalls 1923. Sire: a Seglawi Jedran. Dam: a Seglawieh Dalia. Sold to the USA 1930."

p. 182 "[Roger Selby's] main purchase in 1930 was Mirage, an imported grey stallion of the Seglawi Jedran Dalia strain. Lady Wentworth described him as 'a very showy good horse. Excellent legs, splendid quarters and fine front. Very good in saddle but too bouncing for English taste as he gets English riders off.' But this was not the reason Mirage was sold. Weatherbys had by now closed their Stud Book to new imports and although Lady Wentworth tried to persuade them to accept Mirage, she was unsuccessful and therefore had no option but to sell him."

p. 220 "Another stallion I [Cecil Covey] remember was Mirage, a very quiet horse to handle but as soon as you mounted him he became a different animal, full of fire and verve. When we were visited by King Fuad of Egypt, I was detailed to meet his convoy of cars at the gate of Crabbet Park and to escort them down the drive mounted on Mirage. We must have put on a spectacular display as Mirage hated combustion engines and gave me a most awkward ride. When ridden he carried his head and tail high and had a very short gait which took a while to get used to. But once mastered he was exhilarating."

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Posted - 14 Nov 2005 :  7:15:03 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mike to your friends list Send Mike a Private Message
Q6. (Another Janów question) The first stable block at Janów is still there almost 200 years after it was built, but who was the architect who designed and built it?

Was it..

(a) Aristotle Fioravanti
(b) Szymon Bogumil Zug
(c) Henryk Marconi
(d) Alexey Shchusev
(e) Guglielmo Marconi

Making this one a multiple choice question seemed fairer!

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Posted - 14 Nov 2005 :  7:34:30 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LYNDILOU to your friends list Send LYNDILOU a Private Message
Can we go 50.50, ask the audience, or phone a friend???


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Posted - 14 Nov 2005 :  7:39:10 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LYNDILOU to your friends list Send LYNDILOU a Private Message
Can I do question 7 please? after 6 has been answered!
which famous actress accompanied the the Blunts on one of their stud visits in constantinople? ( no it was not Madona)


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joanna_piana
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Posted - 14 Nov 2005 :  8:41:12 PM  Show Profile  Click to see joanna_piana's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add joanna_piana to your friends list Send joanna_piana a Private Message
Sarah Bernhardt


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Posted - 14 Nov 2005 :  8:43:16 PM  Show Profile  Click to see joanna_piana's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add joanna_piana to your friends list Send joanna_piana a Private Message
Oh and question six is c)Henryk Marconi


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Edited by - joanna_piana on 14 Nov 2005 8:44:06 PM
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Posted - 14 Nov 2005 :  9:03:38 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LYNDILOU to your friends list Send LYNDILOU a Private Message
well done Joanna!


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