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BobandEna
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England
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Posted - 11 Jun 2007 :  3:34:24 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BobandEna to your friends list Send BobandEna a Private Message
Mike,

Would it be correct to say that the dam of your horse was a daughter of two DESERT BREDS

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Mike
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Eire
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Posted - 11 Jun 2007 :  5:55:11 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mike to your friends list Send Mike a Private Message
Hi Bob,

Considering that she was born in Syria, how much closer to "the desert" can one get?

Mike
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BobandEna
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Posted - 11 Jun 2007 :  6:29:58 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BobandEna to your friends list Send BobandEna a Private Message
Best Pal

Do you like steak

Let's say ARGENTINIAN steak

because if you did and you happend to be in Argentinia in 1936 (about your time) then you would have seen your horse in the flesh, his name was

SALAM - SBA*1177

16 Aug 1936
Color Grey
Gender Stallion
Sire ACTIF
SBA*478 Chestnut 1924
Dam SEDI
SBA*327 Grey 1919

the sire ACTIF is shown hear as SBA*478

BUT HERE IS HIS ORIGINAL REGISRATION

ACTIF - SBFAR*5486
1924
Chestnut Stallion
Sire HAMDANI EL SAMRY
SBFAR*3383 Chestnut 1903
Dam APCHEE
SBFAR*4552 Chestnut 1917
Dam's Sire KADI II
SBFAR*3320 Chestnut 1908
Status DECEASED 23 Feb 1938
Studbook
Reference
Volume 20 Page 1030

Breeder M. F BOURLON

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Mike
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Eire
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Posted - 11 Jun 2007 :  7:02:06 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mike to your friends list Send Mike a Private Message
Well Done Bob!!!

The grey was indeed Salam but who is the horse below, who bred him & why is his name unusual?



Mike
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Anfi
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Denmark
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Posted - 11 Jun 2007 :  8:03:56 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Anfi to your friends list Send Anfi a Private Message
Well done, BOB!!

That was a really fine piece of research!! I was nowhere near

Anne




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BobandEna
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Posted - 11 Jun 2007 :  8:38:34 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BobandEna to your friends list Send BobandEna a Private Message
Hi Anne

Thanks, don't tell Best Pal, but it took hours and hours, the dog thought I was an intruder, when I tried to go to my bed this morning

Anne I am sure you and Mike will agree, when I say that there has been some 41,000 hits on this quiz over the years and we would like you all to come on IN and join us, this is not an exclusive club at ALL, it was started as a way of passing the winter nights (a stay at home night class) for education with FUN and a way to meet and make new friends, it may interest all of you to know that I have never met Mike or Anne in the flesh, but through this we have become good buddies.

So if you are sitting there thinking I would love to post a question, but I'm afraid to, don't be, HAVE A GO, we will love for it. And remember that the answer to 99% of MY questions can be found on the World Wide Web

Mike

I am stabbing in the dark now but I your horse is

*ORAN VAN CRABBET - AHR*18314
01 Jan 1960
Chestnut Stallion
Sire ORAN
GSB*1076 Chestnut 1940
Dam *SERAFINA
AHR*17129 Chestnut 1945
Dam's Sire INDIAN GOLD
GSB*985 Chestnut 1934
Parentage Blood typed.
Status Presumed Deceased 01 Oct 1996

Breeder CRABBET ARABIAN STUD
Owners RONALD H DOW 01-July-1976
MERLE J AND RONALD H DOW 01-January-1960

Groups
The Pyramid Society: Egyptian Bred

Bob Hart Sr in the saddle


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Mike
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Eire
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Posted - 11 Jun 2007 :  9:18:36 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mike to your friends list Send Mike a Private Message
Hi Bob,

Quite right this is a bit of fun, that anyone can have a go at and if we all learn a little along the way, then so much the better! I knew that you had Salam nailed down when you asked if his sire was French ( that is registered in the French stud book SBFAR)

The saddle seat photo of Oran van Crabbet was a bit of a give away wasn't it? I can't think of another horse named both after his sire and the stud that bred him though!

Here's another more recent horse (photo by Erwin Escher), this should be relatively straight forward .... so who is it?


Have fun!!

Mike
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Vygoda
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Posted - 12 Jun 2007 :  03:34:23 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Vygoda to your friends list Send Vygoda a Private Message
Victoria but have probably spelt her name incorrectly. Won in Paris
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Mike
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Eire
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Posted - 12 Jun 2007 :  08:16:02 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mike to your friends list Send Mike a Private Message
Congratulations !!!!!

The mare is indeed Victoria II by RSD Dark Victory, pictured when she was world champion in 1999

This one might make you think a little bit ....heh heh Here is the horse:-


The question this time for a bit of fun is not who is he? But how tall was he?? There are 1,000,000 bonus points on offer for identifying this one, should any one wish to have a stab at it!

Mike
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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 12 Jun 2007 :  09:16:24 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LYNDILOU to your friends list Send LYNDILOU a Private Message
Mike your questions are to hard for a dumbo like me, so while people are working your last question out here is a little one from me, who is this horse,? he is VERY famous!


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Jingo
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Posted - 12 Jun 2007 :  4:25:31 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jingo to your friends list Send Jingo a Private Message
Goodness me, I go away for a couple of days, come back and lost track!!! So many wonderful answers to the postings - Bob you must have a computer in your head - don't upset the dog please

Right Mike - what an elegant photo - I think it is either May Lyons or perhaps our own very elegant Joan Ratcliffe - over to you

Perhaps if we know the rider it would give us a clue to which horse

Jude
www.auchmillanarabians.org.uk

photos:Anthony Reynolds,Sweet,Deano,Real Time Imaging

Edited by - Jingo on 12 Jun 2007 4:30:45 PM
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arabianbeauty
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Posted - 12 Jun 2007 :  4:56:01 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add arabianbeauty to your friends list Send arabianbeauty a Private Message
O.K. Mike.....you must not be getting much work done today!!! LOL..

Wait a minute....maybe it's night time where you are????

Time zones confuse me.

Heather
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Mike
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Eire
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Posted - 12 Jun 2007 :  5:00:59 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mike to your friends list Send Mike a Private Message
Hi,

The photo was taken in what was then Russian Poland at the turn of the last century There is as I said earlier no need to identify the horse , though you are of course welcome to have a go at that if you wish! The only question that I do require an answer to is "How tall was this particular horse?" No harm in having a guess after all how hard can it be .......

Mike

PS Heather, I took the afternoon off work, but posted the question before I left this morning

Edited by - Mike on 12 Jun 2007 5:03:23 PM
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Jingo
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Posted - 12 Jun 2007 :  5:14:19 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jingo to your friends list Send Jingo a Private Message
Now Mike - I know your sense of humour so wondering if this is a trick question

If you look at the tiny hands of the lady and her small face - maybe the horse - that certainly looks like a HORSE is very small

So I say for my first guess 14hands - don't ask for centimetres please

Jude
www.auchmillanarabians.org.uk

photos:Anthony Reynolds,Sweet,Deano,Real Time Imaging
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Mike
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Posted - 12 Jun 2007 :  5:22:56 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mike to your friends list Send Mike a Private Message
The documented height is in cm unfortunately for you but I will accept a guess of 14 hands Unfortunately for you the horse was a little more than a tad taller than 14 hands Better luck next time .... perhaps!

Mike
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arabianbeauty
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Posted - 12 Jun 2007 :  5:34:21 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add arabianbeauty to your friends list Send arabianbeauty a Private Message
I get the feeling that the horse is taller than it seems
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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 12 Jun 2007 :  6:37:39 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LYNDILOU to your friends list Send LYNDILOU a Private Message
I'll have a stab and say 16.3 clue to my horse, he is no longer with us!


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Anfi
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Posted - 12 Jun 2007 :  7:07:16 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Anfi to your friends list Send Anfi a Private Message
I must admit I don't know who your horse is Lynda, but he is incredibly beautiful

Anne




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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 12 Jun 2007 :  7:31:28 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LYNDILOU to your friends list Send LYNDILOU a Private Message
Well there is a clue right there then Anneheres another one he died aged 27


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BobandEna
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Posted - 12 Jun 2007 :  7:53:17 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BobandEna to your friends list Send BobandEna a Private Message
Can anyone tell this thick old manHow many centemetres there are in a HAND

PLEASE

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Mike
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Posted - 12 Jun 2007 :  8:41:47 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mike to your friends list Send Mike a Private Message
Hi Bob,

The answer is 1 hand = 10.16 cm or you could use this link :-

http://www.onlineconversion.com/horse_height.htm

16.3 is a little too tall

Mike
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rosyw
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Posted - 12 Jun 2007 :  8:55:42 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rosyw to your friends list Send rosyw a Private Message
Lynda, did this horse leave us quite recently?
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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 12 Jun 2007 :  9:03:40 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LYNDILOU to your friends list Send LYNDILOU a Private Message
No, its been a whilebut he has left his legacy all over the world


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BobandEna
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Posted - 12 Jun 2007 :  9:33:22 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BobandEna to your friends list Send BobandEna a Private Message
Best Pal, thank you

I think this horse is 165.1 cm


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Jingo
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Posted - 12 Jun 2007 :  9:47:31 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jingo to your friends list Send Jingo a Private Message
Ok another go 162.56cm

Jude
www.auchmillanarabians.org.uk

photos:Anthony Reynolds,Sweet,Deano,Real Time Imaging
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