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C.J.
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Posted - 14 Jun 2005 :  7:30:03 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add C.J. to your friends list Send C.J. a Private Message
Oh Bob, how can you say you're on your 'tod'? We all love you and know you're just as bright and witty (?) as the supposed 'A' (for Anoraks?) team. So there, hope that makes you feel better

Jane, you're right, the arist is Edwin Bogucki but the subject is not Bask, it’s as Cate correctly stated and Bob confirmed – the ‘Fabulous’ FADJUR.

Edwin Bogucki is probably better known today for his marvellous bronzes, the ones of Ferzon, Bask and Bandos immediately springing to mind but, to me, one of his most amazing was ‘Tutankhamen – Pharaoh of Egypt’ (see below) which graced the front cover and inside pages of the May 1981 copy of Arabian Horse World. The painting of Fadjur was featured on the cover of the November 1967 ‘Special Fadjur Issue’ of Arabian Horse World and was apparently Bogucki’s interpretation of Fadjur being led out to breed a mare.



Fadjur was foaled in 1952 and was by Fadheilan (Fadl x Kasztelanka) out of Bint Sahara (Farawi x Bint Sedjur). He was purchased as a weanling colt by Jack and Marge Tone and remained in their ownership for the rest of his life. Naturally showy and with a very sweet nature, Fadjur became a great success not only in the show ring but also in the breeding barn literally putting the Jack Tone Ranch ‘on the map.’ The list of his champion offspring are long and numerous and his name can be found, through imports, in many of the Arabians in the UK today. One of his most successful crossings was with the mare Saki (Ferseyn x Ferdia). Together they produced 14 foals including Sakifa, Ibn Fadjur, Fadi, Bint Saki, Fadki, Sa-Fad and others. Fadjur is also known as the sire of Jurneeka (x Fadneeka by Fadheilan) who in turn was the dam of Khemosabi who sired Kaiyoum (out of Bayanka). Fadjur passed away in 1983 at the age of 31. The photo of him below is taken from the Nov 1967 AHW, the pic being reversed (his sock is on the near hind)



So we now have 2 answers right which just leaves the question of his illustrious descendent in the UK. The eagle-eyed amongst you will notice a hint in the paragraph above but as an added extra clue I will just say that he is one attractive stallion!

Happy swotting

Caroline

PS Can't be that bright as I've had to go in and correct this twice due to spelling errors, minor pedigree mistakes and so on and so forth


"And God said to the Wind 'Be thou gathered together.' And the wind was gathered together....And he created from a handful of wind a horse of chestnut colour like gold. And God let loose the Swift Runner, and he went on his way neighing."


Edited by - C.J. on 14 Jun 2005 7:37:32 PM
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razgold
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Posted - 14 Jun 2005 :  8:17:11 PM  Show Profile  Send razgold a Yahoo! Message Bookmark this reply Add razgold to your friends list Send razgold a Private Message
would that Fadjur's Dandy?

Sue


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BobandEna
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Posted - 14 Jun 2005 :  8:40:47 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BobandEna to your friends list Send BobandEna a Private Message
OK I say

FFATAL ATTREACTION out off Falling in love by Kaiyoum who is by Khemosabi out of Jurneeka who is by FADJUR

This makes him a great-great-great grandson of Fadjur and a very worthy BNC too



This will please Del.

Caroline,
Thank you, it's nice to be LOVED

Regards

Bob
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Jingo
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Posted - 14 Jun 2005 :  9:16:51 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jingo to your friends list Send Jingo a Private Message
Great photo Bob - is that a halo behind him!!!!

You know we all love you Bob.

Jude
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C.J.
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Posted - 14 Jun 2005 :  9:30:07 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add C.J. to your friends list Send C.J. a Private Message
Bob - You got it in one!

Yes, the correct answer is that very 'attractive' stallion -FFATAL ATTRACTION! Here's another photo of him taken by yours truly at last years AHS Show where he won BNC Stallion.



signed

yet another member of 'The Bob' fan club!

To be truthful, there was an extremely pretty Ffatal Attraction filly for sale at Malvern last year that I looked at long and hard - talk about tempted!

"And God said to the Wind 'Be thou gathered together.' And the wind was gathered together....And he created from a handful of wind a horse of chestnut colour like gold. And God let loose the Swift Runner, and he went on his way neighing."

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Cate
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Posted - 14 Jun 2005 :  10:07:55 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cate to your friends list Send Cate a Private Message
Well done Bob

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BobandEna
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Posted - 15 Jun 2005 :  6:56:38 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BobandEna to your friends list Send BobandEna a Private Message
Hi Cate,

I think we three did well, Jane got the Artist, you got the horse, and I Faatal Atraction. Caroline sets hard ones.

WHO IS THIS THEN??????


Photo Luiz Rocco (Brazil)

No clues just yet.

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Jingo
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Posted - 15 Jun 2005 :  7:07:29 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jingo to your friends list Send Jingo a Private Message
El Shaklan?

Jude
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razgold
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Posted - 15 Jun 2005 :  7:17:44 PM  Show Profile  Send razgold a Yahoo! Message Bookmark this reply Add razgold to your friends list Send razgold a Private Message
Zircon Nazeer?


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BobandEna
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Posted - 15 Jun 2005 :  8:07:45 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BobandEna to your friends list Send BobandEna a Private Message
Sorry Judith NO

Hi Sue, Sorry, NO

First Clue.

He dines with ROYALTY


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Jingo
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Posted - 15 Jun 2005 :  10:01:02 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jingo to your friends list Send Jingo a Private Message
Ansata Nile Echo? I'm guessing.

Jude
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Redwood
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Posted - 15 Jun 2005 :  10:05:51 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Redwood to your friends list Send Redwood a Private Message
Abha Fadil

JJMay
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BobandEna
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Posted - 15 Jun 2005 :  10:27:21 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BobandEna to your friends list Send BobandEna a Private Message
Hi Jenni May,

First a big welcome to AL, we are a bit mad on here but lots of nice people
Well done you are correct it is Abha Fadil, would you care to tell us about him and about your horses too please.


Regards

Bob
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Redwood
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Posted - 16 Jun 2005 :  1:04:37 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Redwood to your friends list Send Redwood a Private Message
Hi All,

I often pass by this forum and take in the friendly atmosphere.

Abha Fadil reminds me of my buddy Espano Estopa (Om El Abadan x Malikah Estopa). It’s not surprising because Fadil carries the blood of Carmargue and Estopa. Fadil is by Rawalpindi (Carmargue x Onix) from the Ibn Estopa daughter Persia. I got to know Fadil when he was in Germany, he's a fine stallion. He is bred and owned by Spanish Princess Marieta Salas.

At present we have a nice group Espano Estopa daughters and his dam Malikah Estopa (An Malik x Estopa). It's an important year for Redwood Lodge because after many years we have a foal from Malikah, a colt by Al Aadeed Al Shaqab (Ansata Halim Shah x Sundar Alisayyah). RL Romantik (Espano x Cambriaa) will foal to Al Aadeed soon too. We also have three WH Justice (Magnum Psyche x Vona Sher-renea) offspring, twelve Arabians in total. Sadly we lost our beloved Cambriaa (El Shaklan x Zafriaa) this year to the evil Cushing's disease.

Hope this topic keeps going. It is great fun guessing. If I find the time to work out how to upload pictures I have a few teasers in my picture file!

Best wishes

Jenni

JJMay
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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 16 Jun 2005 :  2:38:46 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LYNDILOU to your friends list Send LYNDILOU a Private Message
Welcome Jenni, I am a great fan of your Espano Estopa, I have always loved the cross of Carmargue on Estopa lines and your boy is one of the great successes of that cross, you may or may not know WSA Charismma who is a Carmague son, he is mine and I have several daughters who I am hoping to cover at some time with LVA Maximus!,Espano would be my choice also if I ever get around to AI ! just look how many wonderful horses came from that breeding!


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C.J.
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Posted - 16 Jun 2005 :  7:33:47 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add C.J. to your friends list Send C.J. a Private Message
Welcome indeed to ALines Jenni

As Bob said we are all a bit 'bats' on here but that's half the fun. Thanks for the info on Abha Fadil and your horses (I remember seeing Espano Estopa and Om El Abadan at the UKIAHS at Towerlands in 1998) Glad you're enjoying this topic too although Bob seems to think I set hard questions (me?) so here's a fun pic which I think everyone ought to be able to identify pretty quickly in view of the current discussions!

Who is this young man going about his business in such a hurry? (I mean the horse but I know most of you will know the handler too!)



Best wishes

Caroline


"And God said to the Wind 'Be thou gathered together.' And the wind was gathered together....And he created from a handful of wind a horse of chestnut colour like gold. And God let loose the Swift Runner, and he went on his way neighing."

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Posted - 16 Jun 2005 :  8:29:11 PM  Show Profile  Send pat day an AOL message  Click to see pat day's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add pat day to your friends list Send pat day a Private Message
something to do with camargue, may be. ???


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Anfi
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Posted - 16 Jun 2005 :  10:16:17 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Anfi to your friends list Send Anfi a Private Message
Camargue Too??

Anne




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razgold
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Posted - 17 Jun 2005 :  04:28:23 AM  Show Profile  Send razgold a Yahoo! Message Bookmark this reply Add razgold to your friends list Send razgold a Private Message
is it Katy's gelding. Sorry I don't know his name.

Sue.


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Vygoda
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Posted - 17 Jun 2005 :  04:39:38 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Vygoda to your friends list Send Vygoda a Private Message
Brian Blake with Rostam.
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barb
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Posted - 17 Jun 2005 :  08:10:01 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add barb to your friends list Send barb a Private Message
Bill Gore with Camargue, at Ascot early 80s i recognise Mrs Oppes yellow lorry in the background!
This is fun, even though i have only recognised about three so far.
Best wishes Barb
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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 17 Jun 2005 :  09:03:48 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LYNDILOU to your friends list Send LYNDILOU a Private Message
I would say its Carmague,


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Cate
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Posted - 17 Jun 2005 :  1:25:09 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cate to your friends list Send Cate a Private Message
I also think it is Bill Gore with Carmargue

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C.J.
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Posted - 17 Jun 2005 :  7:46:01 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add C.J. to your friends list Send C.J. a Private Message
Well done everyone who recognised the wonderful Carmarque with the one and only 'come on Bill' Gore. But Barb I have to say that I'm very impressed that you guessed it was Ascot in the early 80s based on a horsebox in the background of the photo - now that is amaaaaaaaaazing!! (it was taken in 1984 in fact).

Now who is going to set the next puzzle?? We are all waiting in anticipation!

Caroline




"And God said to the Wind 'Be thou gathered together.' And the wind was gathered together....And he created from a handful of wind a horse of chestnut colour like gold. And God let loose the Swift Runner, and he went on his way neighing."

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Arabian Girl
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Posted - 17 Jun 2005 :  9:22:22 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Arabian Girl to your friends list Send Arabian Girl a Private Message
Although i was wrong i was going to say Bill Gore and Rostam. A lovely pic though....



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