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Dawn2908
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Posted - 11 Feb 2009 :  11:21:10 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Dawn2908 to your friends list Send Dawn2908 a Private Message
I have acquired a beautiful 14.3hh chestnut mare 7 years, by Dedja des Forges x Faery Wand. I bought her as unrideable, but after I had her back and teeth seen to, we started riding her and so far she hasn't put a foot wrong. I would really like to try and track her history so that I know what she has done in the past and see if it gives me some idea about what to do with her in the future. Can anyone help? Thanks Dawn

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Joto
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Posted - 11 Feb 2009 :  12:18:07 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Joto to your friends list Send Joto a Private Message
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/spasiba

this is her pedigree
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Dawn2908
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Posted - 11 Feb 2009 :  2:24:30 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dawn2908 to your friends list Send Dawn2908 a Private Message
Thanks for that, but I had already found the site, that's how I tracked her lineage, I actually put her name on. I think I need to know a little more about Arabs in general because none of it means very much to me, do you know how I find out what sort of Arab she is, or doesn't it matter. I keep reading about Crabbet Arabs, Egyptian etc and I don't know how to find out about her specifically. Although it gives names of the ancestory it doesn't really say anything about them. Am I trying to go into this a bit too deeply?? Maybe I should be satisfied that she is a well bred pure bred.

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Joto
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Posted - 11 Feb 2009 :  4:15:37 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Joto to your friends list Send Joto a Private Message
Hi, knowledge is a good thing IMO. I find researching blood lines very interesting. ThEre are various books about the arab strains/families about. Just had a quick peek at the pedigree. Aswan was a straight egyptian, Judith Forbes wrote a very good book about those bloodlines.Mammona was an increadably famous mare for the USSR stud. The sire line is French race horses, going back to Poland.
Your mare was bred , on all lines, to race. On a slightly different note, I know of several arabians of the dam line, particulaly the Faery line which are used in palomino breeding.
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Joto
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Posted - 11 Feb 2009 :  4:26:52 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Joto to your friends list Send Joto a Private Message
Spasiba's tail female is first import Crabbet, and includes Bint Helwa the broken legged mare in her line. A lot of arabians go back to Rodania tail female, Spasiba doesnt, her Crabbet tail female is Bint Helwa, imported by the Blunts as one of the foundation stock,she was foaled in 1887.The Bint Helwa line died out at crabbet itself.
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nag965
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Posted - 11 Feb 2009 :  7:22:04 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nag965 to your friends list Send nag965 a Private Message
Hi Dawn,

Spasiba was bred by Liz Harrington, now at Larkinglass stud. she is very well bred for the performance world, the Dam Faery Wand, bred some good racehorses: Parmants Clown, Wayward Faery & Wayward Twister. The sire Dedja des Forges was one I used a few times and has produced some nice endurance horses. I know Spasiba was entered at the 2003 Ascot Sales, but led out unsold and I am sure she did race a couple of times ( I will double check).

Best of luck with her, i am sure with her performance breeding, she will make a good Endurance horse.
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nag965
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Posted - 11 Feb 2009 :  8:03:28 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nag965 to your friends list Send nag965 a Private Message
I have had a look and she did race twice in 2005, finishing 5th & 6th.
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Dawn2908
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Posted - 11 Feb 2009 :  8:18:13 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dawn2908 to your friends list Send Dawn2908 a Private Message
Oh wow, thank you everyone for being so nice. I can't believe she has raced, she is so chilled. It seems she is a real find then, I can't believe they were going to sell her to a dealer!!! Why do people buy horses when they don't know what they are doing. They thought she couldn't be ridden and that she could only be a brood mare. I'm so glad I took a chance on her. Thanks for the information on Liz Harrington I will try and track her down via the Larkinglass stud, I'm sure she will be interested to know about one of her off-spring. Nag965 - do you know how much was bid before she came out unsold?? Not that it matters really but just interested. Thanks again to everyone you are all so helpful. It is really exciting to find out about her.

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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 12 Feb 2009 :  9:57:09 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rozy Rider to your friends list Send Rozy Rider a Private Message
Spasiba,(lot 165) as unbroken - went to 1600 not sold in the 2004 Ascot Sale, she went back home with Liz Harrington, she was back at the 2005 sale and sold for 950, she was in training then. I feel sure I've seen her somewhere on the lines after that date for sale, with someone who was riding her and she apeared to be schooling well. Might have even been on the AL horses for sale.

Wayward Twister was with an endurance family and I saw him out a few times and doing well Euston Park??, a realy flashy liver chestnut.

There's quite a bit of breeding info on the sales pages from ascot and I think the G.dam Faery Snow may have sold at the Gucci sale and is related to some other famous arabs from that line, (like Silver Faery).She was also placed in hand at the wessex spring show in 2007 or 8 with a Mrs C Edwards. When I saw her in 2004 & 5, at ascot she was a bit of a Strawberry Roan.
Sue

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Edited by - Rozy Rider on 12 Feb 2009 10:17:37 PM
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erica giles
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Posted - 14 Feb 2009 :  8:05:50 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add erica giles to your friends list Send erica giles a Private Message
Hi I don't know who you bought her from but she was owned by C Edwards, and when I did a local showing class two years ago she was better behaved than my 12 year old.

She was for sale on AL last year and at that point still owned by the above.

As I say when I saw her the year before last I was very impressed by her, she didn't put a hoof wrong!!

erica giles
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Dawn2908
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Posted - 15 Feb 2009 :  10:40:39 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dawn2908 to your friends list Send Dawn2908 a Private Message
Thanks for that both of you. I have managed to get a phone number for C Edwards and might be able to get some more information from her I will try and call her tomorrow. I don't understand why she ended up the way she did. She is going really well now and I am determined to find the right home for her

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zaminda1
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Posted - 16 Feb 2009 :  1:14:49 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add zaminda1 to your friends list Send zaminda1 a Private Message
Hi, Liz Harrington now has a stud in Dorset, she moved from Conkwell a few years ago. She was linked with Paul Keane who was traing, but he has gone back to Ireland. I think their yard is in Motcombe.
Hope this helps
Sally
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Dawn2908
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Posted - 16 Feb 2009 :  3:02:26 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dawn2908 to your friends list Send Dawn2908 a Private Message
Originally posted by zaminda1

Hi, Liz Harrington now has a stud in Dorset, she moved from Conkwell a few years ago. She was linked with Paul Keane who was traing, but he has gone back to Ireland. I think their yard is in Motcombe.
Hope this helps
Sally

Hi Sally, thanks for that, I did manage to track her down thanks to this site and received an reply email from her - unfortunately she couldn't tell me anything more than I already know about Spasiba. But my knowledge is growing. I now know that she raced as a 4year old, was then sold on at the Arab Sales to a showing home, where she competed in the Wessex Arab Show in the Spring of 2007, she came 6th and then nothing more until I bought her as unrideable from a small yard near Chelmsford Essex. I have now traced the show home she had and so I'm hoping they will contact me to give me any information they may have on her. Will wait and see. It doesn't really matter anymore, she is a super little mare and will make someone soon a really lovely horse. Dawn

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