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Bex
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Posted - 19 Nov 2008 : 2:17:09 PM
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Hi I have recently had a pure bred foal and he has a very unusual marking on his side- a big white splash as you can see from pic's. I would be very interested to hear if anyone else has an Arab with a similar marking? And would love to see any pic's! Bex.


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themewoman
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Posted - 19 Nov 2008 : 2:20:03 PM
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he looks lovely. i'd love a horse with an unusual marking like that!!! |
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Offira
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Posted - 19 Nov 2008 : 2:22:12 PM
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Gosh that is a white mark! How unusual and lovely. School looks nice too (said jealously). |
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Merlot
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Posted - 19 Nov 2008 : 2:34:14 PM
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What a lovely boy - love the second photo - who put that there !! |
photo by Eric G Jones |
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Baikala
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Posted - 19 Nov 2008 : 2:54:09 PM
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Very novel, I haven't seen one that high up before, he'll be easy to spot for a while to come,he looks as if he may be going to grey out in the end though. It must have been quite startling to see that when he arrived!
Coincidentally my Vet was telling me about a Standard bred he'd foaled this spring that had a white patch on his ribs,the owner reckoned it came from the foal sticking to the side in utero! Vet didn't offer a professional opinion.
Just out of curiosity, technically, is that splodge large enough to qualify him to be a coloured as well? |
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Pixie
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Posted - 19 Nov 2008 : 3:00:31 PM
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a friend of mine also told me that splashes and splodges are to do with how they are in the womb - interesting.
He is lovely by the way |
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Roseanne
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Posted - 19 Nov 2008 : 3:32:51 PM
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There was a whole thread about Arabs with such extraordinary splashes and splodges some looked like coloureds. Is it to do with the sabino genes? There are loads of experts on here who'll be able to explain! |
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Kash
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Posted - 19 Nov 2008 : 3:38:53 PM
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PintoArabian on here has a super Straight Russian colt (Picasso Kossack) who has a large belly splodge. Hopefully he'll see this thread and be able to post some photos  |
Photographs by Emma Maxwell and Peter Grant |
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pintoarabian
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TC
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Posted - 19 Nov 2008 : 4:51:13 PM
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They are both gorgeous and isnt it just lovely to have an arab thats just that little bit different    |
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Bex
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Posted - 19 Nov 2008 : 4:53:27 PM
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Thanks very much everyone. That is interesting I wonder if it is something to do with how they are in the womb! I have no idea if it's large enough for him to be classed as a coloured as well depends how big the splodge/splash is I guess and if theres more than one?! Pinto Arabian- your boy is truly stunning!  Bex.x |
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pintoarabian
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Posted - 19 Nov 2008 : 6:56:33 PM
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Thanks for the nice comments about Picasso. He seems to have fans around the world and a huge number of people were 'blown away' when he appeared as a foal. We love him to bits and receive emails from many people from all over the world who remember him at the Tersk Holland Sale. Not only is he a 'looker' but he has the nicest temperament too. The white markings are passed down from horses carrying the sabino gene. It is not uncommon for pure bred Arabs to carry this gene and it is prevalent, particularly amongst Crabbet bred horses. Other notable horses carrying this gene are OAS Panache and Indian Golden Silk. Kubinec also carries the gene and has sired a number of foals with a belly splash, but Picasso's seems to be the largest. Khemosabi also passed this gene down to many of his stock in the USA, most notably Khartoon Khlassic, who has sired a number of loudly splashed sabino Arabs. Bex, your horse would be eligible to be registered with either CHAPS(UK) or the BSPA as his white patch is large enough. |
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garnet
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Posted - 19 Nov 2008 : 7:26:24 PM
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Bex, this isn't an Arab but there is a big bay hunter mare on our yard with a white patch virtually identical to the one on your foal. Interesting. Family are bay or chestnut. |
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Vera
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Posted - 19 Nov 2008 : 7:31:40 PM
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Well we all knew instantly who he was when he came in the ring at Malvern this year . |
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Judith S
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Posted - 19 Nov 2008 : 7:39:15 PM
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Bex - he's lovely! Very striking with his white flash!! Where abouts in Wales are you? Being also in Wales I would love to see him in the flesh - if not too far away?! |
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Roseanne
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Posted - 19 Nov 2008 : 8:25:50 PM
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Picasso is gorgeous! But I think your foal's very special too Bex! |
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azraa
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Posted - 19 Nov 2008 : 8:31:37 PM
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my mare azraa has a splash on her belly, you cannot see it unless you look under her and i was told that it means she carries the colour gene, yours is very distintive bex,lovely boy. picasso is lovely he has a fan club. karen |
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Bex
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Posted - 19 Nov 2008 : 8:53:20 PM
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Pintoarabian, thank you for that information and I hope to see Piccaso Kossack in the flesh one day Garnet, thats strange! you will have to try and get a photo of the mare on here. Judith I am in N.Wales, near Wrexham you would be very welcome here, I'd love to meet you I'll pop another photo of him on.
 This is one taken in August before I had him he was 3 and a half months old, and the one below was taken yesterday and shows his other side spalsh/splodge free!
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Bex
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Egbert
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Posted - 20 Nov 2008 : 08:04:49 AM
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Several days ago I posted on the Tail Female thread the name of the Abbas Pasha acquired desert mare responsible for the parti-coloration. It comes through Mahruss but I find it particularly marked where there is Rodania, Mesaoud and Mahruss in close combination. Lady Wentworth wrote about the markings extensively in her book, THE WORLDS BEST HORSE and Abe Books have several copies available.
FWIW-Good example of the three acting horses in concert-Rodania, Mesaoud, Mahruss-in Picasso Kossack's pedigree, the three are found in *Rissalma via Popova's sire, Podsnejnik via Priboj and again through Muscat's dam, Malpia and Karta's dam Kapella who are both by Priboj who is out of *Rissalma. Also, Ptashka via Balaton was a granddaughter as well as Metropolia all by Priboj out of *Rissalma. With multiple divergent lines to Priboj/*Rissalma and the strength of the chestnut blood...is it any surprise that he had a chance to be so wonderfully marked?
By the way, there was a kingdom that bred parti-coloreds purebreds exclusively per Lady W. |
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angelarab
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Posted - 20 Nov 2008 : 08:23:07 AM
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Picasso is amazing and i was too busy looking at him on the ring next to me at a show rather then showing my lad off...opps i was really aww struck |
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Bex
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Posted - 20 Nov 2008 : 10:24:00 AM
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Hi Gari That info is so interesting You helped me out with both my boys and looked in to their pedigree's for me- 'Tahyesh Ibn Montroze' is the boy I have just purchased with the white splodge and I have just looked and realised he also has Rodania, Mesaoud, Mahruss in his pedigree- which could well explain the marking?! Thanks Becci. |
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emma
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Posted - 20 Nov 2008 : 10:36:46 AM
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Pinto Arabian you say Bex' foal would be eligible for Chaps registration, but has the foal is technically grey and at some point will white out how does this work? Would they allow registration up until the horse whites out and the splodge is no longer visible? |
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Anjuli
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Posted - 20 Nov 2008 : 10:56:35 AM
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This is my Khars Splash of Klass (3, "Pebbles") purebred Arabian, 3 x Khemosabi, as a foal. First time I saw this picture I felt in love with her. It took 3 years, now she's with me.    |
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